Kal works on others, but not mine

jmtweer · Post by **jmtweer** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:13 pm

Alright, this is a long one. I want to say first of all I'm not stupid, and I've had kpro for atleast 2 yrs now. All the wires and the grounds are in the right spots, and my injectors and sparkplugs are correct. Also I don't get any error codes.

I recently went to Jeff Evan's for a full tune back on March 1st. Everything went great, but I got a new exhaust and switched to the GM solenoid boost control. So I set a date for a retune, on the 17th. A few days before I went back for the retune, I installed the GM solenoid, so I took my laptop and I loaded up my tune to check out the parameters, no problems, everything was working fine. Mind you I've street tuned my car on this laptop many times before, with Vista. The very next day I wanted to make a small change in the parameters in kmanager on my kal, so I loaded up the kal again and when I turned my car on, it was in limp mode. Check engine, 4k rpm rev limit, just dumping fuel. No matter what I did i couldn't get it to upload my file correctly, unistall, reinstall, clear security, everything. So I called my friend to come over with his laptop and windows xp with an older version of kpro. Work fine first time, no problems. So I walked away thinking it was windows Vista, wrong.

A few days later when I got back to Evan's for the retune, same problem. Same laptop he used to tune it earlier, that he uses on everyones car, wouldn't upload the kal. We trouble shot it for around 3 hrs, checked everything, tried 3 different laptops, the most we could get was the kal uploaded, but as soon as we made a change it wouldn't upload it and go into limp mode. Whole time there were no error codes. So we uploaded the Greddy k20a3 kal from the library, and I limped the car home.

So we thought that the file for the tune was corrupt. So once again I called up my friend and his laptop worked. So maybe just Evan's original file for the tune is corrupt right? Wrong, I emailed him to tell him that my friend's laptop worked again with my copy of the file, and he told me that he emailed it to another tuner in Arizona and it worked on another car. He also tried it himself on another car and it worked.

So my question is, why on earth will this file not work on my car anymore, but it will work on other cars. We also tried making a new file and copying and pasting the data to it, didn't work. I'm very annoyed, I've never had a problem with kpro like this before, and the car has been tuned by 3 different proffesionals in the past, plus street tuned by me and my friend. I need to find an answer to this problem before I lose anymore time and money. I attached the original file

Post by **Spunkster** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:21 pm

What version of software are you using on your laptop (from Help, about)?

jmtweer · Post by **jmtweer** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:33 am

I'm pretty positive I have the newest version 1.2.3.3 I think it is, but I'll check when I get home from work, and post, but it is deffinately the newest version.

jmtweer · Post by **jmtweer** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:34 pm

yes, I have 1.2.3.3

Post by **Spunkster** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:26 pm

Have you tried starting with a new calibration to see if maybe your calibration is just been corrupted in some way?

jmtweer · Post by **jmtweer** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:41 pm

yes, we can upload any kal from the library, and the kal for my tune like I said works on other cars. We also tried starting with a new kal and copying and pasting the data over to it, but it won't work. Thats why we thought the file was corrupt, till we tried it on other cars and it works...

Post by **Spunkster** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:16 pm

without copying and pasting anything though, will a brand new calibration from File, New work in your ecu?

Also post a datalog of when it is in "limp" mode.

jmtweer · Post by **jmtweer** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:54 pm

yes, a brand new kal from the library will work, and it won't datalog when we try to upload my file and it goes into limp mode

Post by **Spunkster** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:14 am

If it works fine with a new calibration and you only have a problem with the old calibration then it appears that the calibration is corrupted and you will just have to start with a new calibration. If you want, you can manually enter every value from the old calibration.

jmtweer · Post by **jmtweer** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:10 pm

yes, thats what it appears to be, but why would that same file for the kal work on other cars, and yes I could manual input the data on a fresh kal, but thats alot of maps to cover, and what if it doesn't work

jmtweer · Post by **jmtweer** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:12 pm

and also, since you can't have two applications of kmanager open at the same time, that would mean I would have to either write down or screenshot every map

Garrett_si · Post by **Garrett_si** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:21 pm

last year

it happens about 2-3 times that I had corrupted calibration

now I use a new name calibration for each dyno run

jmtweer · Post by **jmtweer** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:53 pm

yea, usually it gets corrupt if you download the kal from the ecu, but I don't want to do a whole new tune because I would have to wait longer for a date, and why pay $100per hr for a new tune when this tune is fine, it just needs some fine adjustments that should only take 1 hr

Garrett_si · Post by **Garrett_si** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:57 pm

I download a couples of times without corrupt

Corrupts hapens to me when locking the calibration in the past

the solutions is to copy the timing, fuel et VTC maps into a .txt files

and after that paste it in a new calibration

jmtweer · Post by **jmtweer** » Thu May 01, 2008 2:05 pm

its funny you said that, because I was talking to my friend last night about why the file could have gotten corrupt when Jeff Evans tried to copy the data from the kal, close it out, open a new kal, and paste the data in, and it didn't work. So I suggested if I copy the tables and paste them in notepad and then cut them and paste them into a new kal if that would work, and he told me it should. He said it probly got corrupt when Jeff tried to do it because if you hit any keys by accident when copying and pasting the data straight from one kal to another, it would break the code and become corrupt.

Still, besides doing this, there still is a problem seeing that the original file works on other cars, and it will not work on mine. I intend on making a new file by doing this copying and pasting, but I shouldn't need to, the file is obviously not corrupt because it works fine on other cars, my car is the only car that it does not want to work on...