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Different torque between K20Z1 and k20Z3....

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:33 pm
by 200HP EP
The dyno chart for k20z1 reflash indicates peak torque at 149.4 ft-lbs. The dyno chart for k20z3 reflash indicates peak torque at 162 ft-lbs!!!! How can it be possible????

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:50 am
by Hondata
Because the engines have different cams, a different intake, different throttle body, different air intake, different header and a different exhaust. Unsurprisingly the engines produce a different shaped torque curve.

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:43 pm
by 200HP EP
Hondata wrote:Because the engines have different cams, a different intake, different throttle body, different air intake, different header and a different exhaust. Unsurprisingly the engines produce a different shaped torque curve.
Thanx Doug for your answer! By the way, I'm the first EP you tuned on the "Dyno day" 2 years ago in Montreal...

1- Ok! I'm asking this question because I just bought a new Civic Si 2007 with the K20Z3 engine. Many people said the K20Z3 produce less torque then K20A2, K20Z1, K20A with same bolt-on. Many people said that it has less potentiel too. I just want to know your opinion on this new engine.

2- What is your oppinion about the stock air box. I read that it is almost like a CAI. So a real CAI would not make significant gain!!!

3- Finally, does the OEM catback flow enough to use it with a DCRH?

THANX!
P.S. I'm about to ship you my ecu for a reflash, and I wish very hard another kind of K-PRO for that engine.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:42 am
by Hondata
These are questions you need to ask an engine builder or dyno tuner. We just provide the tuning tools.

I forget to add that the K20Z1 and K20Z3 have different oil pumps...

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:01 pm
by 200HP EP
Well ok! I just thought you were able to answer my questions because of all the tuning you did to create the k20z3 reflash!!