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I want to know if everything is okay.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:25 pm
by BLiNk
Around 4000 to 6000 rpm it seems to have a big lack of power. it feels like if I let the gaz go and floor it. Could u guys take a look at it. Sumtimes it does huge backfire and the car stall ( NOTE : It didnt do any backfire in this datalog but it did do what I said above )

I bought it and got it tuned at Auto Laminar in ville lasalle ( canada, quebec )

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:50 am
by rensoyka
This is a tuned datalog? Your engine knocks and your open loop fuel is way rich unless you are boosted. List your car and mods along with the cal you are using. Also, do a datalog fully in open loop.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:56 am
by BLiNk
yes its tuned i'll have to do an other one soon cause its my friend that has the laptop

mods are, Stage 3 Skunk2 Cams, Stage 2 Skunk2 valves, spring, retainers, CP 12:5-1 oversized piston

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:08 am
by BLiNk
The shop actualy tuned for me and they said not too touch the settings. but my car runs like shit. and they dont seem to care.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:22 pm
by rensoyka
The first thing that I would do is check your valve lash. Those stage 3 cams will make a hell of a racket if it's not correct. That could be the "knock" that the datalog is picking up. Otherwise, get the fuel ratio in order then look at the cam angles.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:27 pm
by rensoyka
If your car is back-firing, then when you open the cover to check the valve lash, I would double check that the valve timing is exactly correct, that could be the root of most of your troubles. A compression check might also be in order. Get all the mechanical issues addressed first, then worry about tuning.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:06 pm
by BLiNk
perfect i'll get them to check this i'll go get the laptop and do sum datalogging today and tomorrow and post them here

how do I get the .cal out of the kmanager?

and thx for the help rensoyka

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:09 pm
by rensoyka
The cal is just a file, it has to be stored somewhere on the hard drive, possibly in the calibrations folder of Kmanager as a default unless your tuner put it somewhere else. Do a search for *.kal files if you can't find it.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:13 pm
by BLiNk
k thanks i'll post sum logs this evening and tomorrow evening

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:47 pm
by BLiNk
I dont have the exact cal but in the tuning they used crower cal and the skunk2 cal which is not on the cd

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 1:09 pm
by BLiNk
backfire "staal" at 1min 07sec

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 1:58 pm
by BLiNk
I went to see an other tuner and he said that its not properly tuned at all, And I think the guy I went to see will have hondata soon in his shop or have it. still in canada. Since my post here Laminar gave me a call and they gave me shit cause I'm asking question here. What they dont know is i'm getting fedup I called back and the receptionist said he was busy I told to ask him to call me back he didn't again x 10 times atleast in the past months.

Now they want to take the car again ( also note: They had the car for over 5months ) and they said I was pressuring them to get it back?? I dont think it takes that long to get my pieces in the engine and get it running. ( in those 5 months they blew my new rebuilded engine cause they did put the pistons on the proper side )

what should I do?

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:57 pm
by rensoyka
Find a new tuner. Write it off as experience, don't throw good money after bad. Personally I wouldn't let them touch my car for tuning if they can't even do the mechanical work correctly. I know everybody makes mistakes, but this seems excessive.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:09 pm
by BLiNk
did u check out that last datalog why does it backfire and then die?

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:12 pm
by rensoyka
Either your tune is totally out to lunch or you have mechanical issues that must be recitfied first. I'd start with the mechanical.