how to run 2-files, pump/race gas?

1slowcrx · Post by **1slowcrx** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:19 pm

i'm currently running the s300. I wanna know how to either wire up a switch or another way i can switch between 2 maps. i want to run 1map for low boost/pump gas and 1 for high boost/race gas.

Post by **Spunkster** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:41 am

Make sure you are using the most recent version of software. Then go to PArameters and click on Secondary Tables.

1slowcrx · Post by **1slowcrx** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:05 pm

how would i switch bin.? i want to run 2 completely different map.

Post by **Hondata** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:06 pm

1. In the parameters window, go to the secondary tables tab. Select an input to use. Set the minimim rpm, load and throttle to 0.
2. Wire a switch into the input you selected above. Note most inputs want to be wired so that you ground the input to activate it.
3. Profit.

There are other considerations - you may want to use the same input to switch between high and low boost as well.

Post by **Spunkster** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:37 pm

Taken straight from the Help file:

Secondary Tables

Secondary tables are a second set of fuel and ignition tables. The ECU can switch to these tables under certain conditions.

Secondary Table Switching

Input - the external switch input used to activate the secondary tables. Note that all conditions, as well as the input switch state, must be met in order for secondary tables to activate. If you do not want to use a switch input set this to 'Always Enabled'.

Input Invert - reverses the state of the activation input.

Conditions

All the conditions must be met in order for the secondary tables to be activated.

Engine speed - specifies the minimum and maximum rpm.

Engine load - specifies the minimum and maximum engine load.

Throttle - specifies the minimum throttle opening. Note that a value of 0% will disable the TPS test (as the TPS range might go negative).

Nitrous - only activates the secondary tables when the check nitrous is active

Example Configurations

Dual Tables - using the power steering input as the activation input, the secondary tables can be switched on the fly for high/low octane tables etc. Note the conditions are as broad as possible so that the tables will activate based on the switch.

MAP / TPS switching for ITBs - by tuning the primary tables using TPS and the secondary tables using MAP, it is possible use the TPS based tables at low load, and switch to the MAP based tables at high load. Note that no input switch is used by setting the input to 'Always On'.

Nitrous Fuel - the secondary table fuel and ignition settings are be used when nitrous is active. The nitrous conditions determine when to switch nitrous on, so the secondary tables conditions should be made as broad as possible.

1slowcrx · Post by **1slowcrx** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:46 pm

do you have a link to the above information? which input would work best?

Post by **Spunkster** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:19 pm

Open the software, go to help at the top of the screen, then click on contents and select find and type in "secondary tables".

1slowcrx · Post by **1slowcrx** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:05 pm

i bought the s300 used from a private party and it didnt come with any software. i'm also not tuning my own car, but i want to have all the inputs wired up so when i get to the dyno the tuner can just go to work. is there any where else i can find information on which input i can use for the secondary tables?

locash · Post by **locash** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:26 pm

You can download the software free of charge, here on the Hondata website. Go to Products, and click on the S300 and read.

jman · Post by **jman** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:58 am

Spunkster wrote:Taken straight from the Help file:

Secondary Tables

Secondary tables are a second set of fuel and ignition tables. The ECU can switch to these tables under certain conditions.

Secondary Table Switching

Input - the external switch input used to activate the secondary tables. Note that all conditions, as well as the input switch state, must be met in order for secondary tables to activate. If you do not want to use a switch input set this to 'Always Enabled'.

Input Invert - reverses the state of the activation input.

Conditions

All the conditions must be met in order for the secondary tables to be activated.

Engine speed - specifies the minimum and maximum rpm.

Engine load - specifies the minimum and maximum engine load.

Throttle - specifies the minimum throttle opening. Note that a value of 0% will disable the TPS test (as the TPS range might go negative).

Nitrous - only activates the secondary tables when the check nitrous is active

Example Configurations

Dual Tables - using the power steering input as the activation input, the secondary tables can be switched on the fly for high/low octane tables etc. Note the conditions are as broad as possible so that the tables will activate based on the switch.

MAP / TPS switching for ITBs - by tuning the primary tables using TPS and the secondary tables using MAP, it is possible use the TPS based tables at low load, and switch to the MAP based tables at high load. Note that no input switch is used by setting the input to 'Always On'.

Nitrous Fuel - the secondary table fuel and ignition settings are be used when nitrous is active. The nitrous conditions determine when to switch nitrous on, so the secondary tables conditions should be made as broad as possible.

So when the switch is on the nitrous output is active....do the fuel and ignition maps change when the switch is turned on or...when the tps is at the set limit?

Post by **Spunkster** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:48 am

only when all parameters are met

jman · Post by **jman** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:28 pm

soo the maps change as soon as ALL are met

Tchleung · Post by **Tchleung** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:12 pm

jman wrote:soo the maps change as soon as ALL are met

Seriously man...He's already said it a few times...

Spunkster wrote:only when all parameters are met