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weird vtec rev limit.

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:19 pm
by sq_creations
Im working on a buddies car. I put my s300 in to tune while im putting together his. I set all the parameters for vtec but when its suppost to turn on the car hits a revlimit. The s300 and vtec work fine on my car but i am running out of ideas on his. So far I have tried tring a diffrent solenoid and tweeking the parameters. I am attaching a data log and the tune so far. It probably something right in front of me that im missing. any help would be apreciated. thanks

eric

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:06 am
by Spunkster
Where is it revlimiting? What RPM? What time in the datalog? From the datalog I cannot see anywhere it is actually revlimiting.

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:17 pm
by sq_creations
It happens at whatever rpm I set vtec to. if i turn off vtec it will go to my redline. the car shuts down when vtec is suppost to kick in. The logs say vtec is coming on too. The ecu, s300 and vtec work fine in my car. so im thinking its a sensor but everything checks out as far as I can tell. that is why I was hoping you might see something I missed in the logs and or settings.

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:23 am
by Hondata
Check the main ground on the thermostat housing - often the extra current the ECU has to sink from grounding the VTEC solenoid will shut the ECU down if there is a poor ground. Also to eliminate mechanical issues trigger VTEC manually with an external switch.

thinking out side the box

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:22 am
by sq_creations
Sorry it took so long to get back. It would work if I put it on a manual switch. I ended up using one the s300 aux outputs and a relay to triger vtec and the car is running great. I only get one set of maps this way though.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:59 am
by Spunkster
You still have a problem and need to resolve it. Chances are you have a wiring problem in the car somewhere. Are any other aftermarket electronics installed in the car?

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:45 am
by sq_creations
No other electronics touching the engine harness except a lc1 wideband into the eld. I ran an additional ground from the battery to the thermostat housing and it didn't make a diffrence. The car runs great if you triger the vtec externally though. My buddy has the car now. If you have any recomendations I can get it back to try.

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:18 am
by Hondata
What is happening is that the current from the VTEC solenoid is reducing the ECU internal voltage to a point where it will not run. This is from the VTEC solenoid drawing too much current, damaged ECU VTEC drive transistors, bad/missing power (A25/B1) or ground (A23/A24) connections to the ECU.