What base program to use?

Mr Plow · Post by **Mr Plow** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:28 am

A2 block with A2 internals (forged crank, wiseco pistons(9:1), eagle rods) and A3 head with a cybernation turbo kit and 550cc rc eng injectors. This is in an 04 civic si using kpro.

Razathorn · Post by **Razathorn** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:34 pm

Why didn't you get an a2 head... it breathes beter than the a3. Just curious.

Mr Plow · Post by **Mr Plow** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:34 pm

Thats for the future. Got the a2 block because my a3 was thrashed. My a3 head was fine. I dont plan to get the a2 head till i can get the 6spd at the same time.

Razathorn · Post by **Razathorn** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:39 pm

Mr Plow wrote:Thats for the future. Got the a2 block because my a3 was thrashed. My a3 head was fine. I dont plan to get the a2 head till i can get the 6spd at the same time.

Another thing... isn't the k20a2 block the same as the k20a and k20a3... hence the k20... the difference being the rods and pistons? Since you built that up I don't know how much if it is actually an "a2's block" anymore

... it's just a nice built up k20 block IMHO. A2 head would be the icing on the cake.. hope you find one cheap.

mdoyle · Post by **mdoyle** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:28 pm

Razathorn wrote:
Mr Plow wrote:Thats for the future. Got the a2 block because my a3 was thrashed. My a3 head was fine. I dont plan to get the a2 head till i can get the 6spd at the same time.
Another thing... isn't the k20a2 block the same as the k20a and k20a3... hence the k20... the difference being the rods and pistons? Since you built that up I don't know how much if it is actually an "a2's block" anymore ... it's just a nice built up k20 block IMHO. A2 head would be the icing on the cake.. hope you find one cheap.

A3 is missing oil squirters, different crank, oil pump, water pump and oil pan.

But yeah, both are 2 liter K series blocks.

Razathorn · Post by **Razathorn** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:32 pm

mdoyle wrote:
Razathorn wrote:
Mr Plow wrote:Thats for the future. Got the a2 block because my a3 was thrashed. My a3 head was fine. I dont plan to get the a2 head till i can get the 6spd at the same time.
Another thing... isn't the k20a2 block the same as the k20a and k20a3... hence the k20... the difference being the rods and pistons? Since you built that up I don't know how much if it is actually an "a2's block" anymore ... it's just a nice built up k20 block IMHO. A2 head would be the icing on the cake.. hope you find one cheap.
A3 is missing oil squirters, different crank, oil pump, water pump and oil pan.

But yeah, both are 2 liter K series blocks.

Oil squirters? .. I Thought that was in the head... do you mean it's a channel in the block?

mdoyle · Post by **mdoyle** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:18 pm

Razathorn wrote: Oil squirters? .. I Thought that was in the head... do you mean it's a channel in the block?

I mean there are lines in the block that squirt oil onto the pistons to keep them cooled off for high RPM use.

Mr Plow · Post by **Mr Plow** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:38 pm

Yup the A2 block has the squirters.

WPB EP3 · Post by **WPB EP3** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:32 pm

Mr Plow wrote:Thats for the future. Got the a2 block because my a3 was thrashed. My a3 head was fine. I dont plan to get the a2 head till i can get the 6spd at the same time.

How did your A3 get thrashed?

Mr Plow · Post by **Mr Plow** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:23 am

Sorry I meant trashed. I needed to replace the #4 cylinder sleeve because the ringlands shattered on the piston so the piston wasnt going up and down normal but up/down on an angle. I have gouges in that sleeve.

WPB EP3 · Post by **WPB EP3** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:23 am

Mr Plow wrote:Sorry I meant trashed. I needed to replace the #4 cylinder sleeve because the ringlands shattered on the piston so the piston wasnt going up and down normal but up/down on an angle. I have gouges in that sleeve.

Ouch, how did this happen? Any reason behind the catastrophic damage?

btw, I think you would just use the 550cc for 10psi map as a starting point and tune from there, but Im not 100% positive.

Evan

02SilverSiHB · Post by **02SilverSiHB** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:44 am

WPB EP3 wrote:
Mr Plow wrote:Sorry I meant trashed. I needed to replace the #4 cylinder sleeve because the ringlands shattered on the piston so the piston wasnt going up and down normal but up/down on an angle. I have gouges in that sleeve.
Ouch, how did this happen? Any reason behind the catastrophic damage?

btw, I think you would just use the 550cc for 10psi map as a starting point and tune from there, but Im not 100% positive.

Evan

it was because he was using guardian! hahahaha, just messing with ya

WPB EP3 · Post by **WPB EP3** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:36 pm

LOL!

Im tired of not having a custom tune bro, lol.
I could make a list about tired of not having:
-staged boost
-custom tune
-ability to custom tune cam angle
-rev launch

Im gonna have to do something about this.