P28/S300 Issue on Accord
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 1:48 pm
Car: 1999 Honda Accord EX (5-speed)
ECU: P28 — all capacitors replaced, J12 removed, and J1 jumped
S300v3 serial: 67277
Mods: Ghost key push button from Jordan Distributions, eBay cold air intake, full speaker system (removed for testing), 3-to-2-wire IACV conversion with Rosko conversion plate
1. Symptoms / History
2.a. Baseline (ECU unplugged):
2.f. Fuse & relay checks:
3. Other notes:
ECU: P28 — all capacitors replaced, J12 removed, and J1 jumped
S300v3 serial: 67277
Mods: Ghost key push button from Jordan Distributions, eBay cold air intake, full speaker system (removed for testing), 3-to-2-wire IACV conversion with Rosko conversion plate
1. Symptoms / History
- Installed S300v3 onto the P28 and initially uploaded my tune — S300 was turning on (not sure if sensors were reading).
- When finishing the installation of the 3-to-2-wire conversion, the S300 showed no live data. At that time D3/D4 (green) were lit but D2 rapidly flashed red.
- I reseated the S300v3 a few times to make sure it was correct; now when the S300 is hooked up it shows no lights at all.
- Plugging my original stock ECU back in makes the car work normally (no issues).
- Sent my ECU and S300v3 combo to be tested on an engine sim, which came back all good. Also, I had the P28 board switched out just in case.
2.a. Baseline (ECU unplugged):
- A25 (IGP2): 11.92 V (key ON)
- B1 (IGP1): 11.92 V (key ON)
- A7 (fuel pump relay): 11.90 V key ON, drops to <0.4 V key OFF
- Grounds: A23, A24, A26, B2 → 0.0 Ω to chassis (good)
- Conversion harness continuity for D19–D22 → OK
- D19 → chassis: OL (open) — no short
- D20 → chassis: OL — no short
- D21 → A23: 0.0 Ω
- D22 → A23: 0.0 Ω
- A25: ~2.17 V (should be ~12V)
- B1: ~2.17 V (should be ~12V)
- D19 (VCC1): ~5 mV (should be ~5V)
- D20 (VCC2): ~5 mV (should be ~5V)
- D21 / D22: ~2 mV (should be ~0V)
- D4 (SCS): ~-0.9 mV (I forgot what this should be but this is only testing if the ECU is initialized, I think)
- A25: ~1.90 V ((should be ~12V))
- B1: ~1.88 V (should be ~12V)
- D19/D20 remain near 0 V (should be ~5V)
- D4 measured ~8.9 mV and slowly increasing to >22 mV if probe left in pin (odd behavior)
- Plugging Connector A (only) → A25/B1 collapse to ~1.8–2.0 V and constant CEL.
- Plugging Connector B (only) → A25/B1 collapse to ~1.8–2.0 V and no CEL.
- Plugging Connector D (only) → A25/B1 remain ~11.9 V (no collapse).
2.f. Fuse & relay checks:
- ECU fuse (driver panel): 12.19 V both sides (battery and load side)
- Fuel pump fuse (driver panel): 12.18 V both sides
3. Other notes:
- Wiggle-testing the harness/connector at A25 didn’t change the low voltage significantly.
- My multimeter is a cheap one from Amazon so it could be slightly off but from what I can see that isn't the issue.
- I've tried some of these tests with the S300V3 installed and removed but still got the same issues.
- The harness and vehicle switched feeds are good (A25/B1 read ~12 V when ECU is unplugged).
- When the P28 is plugged in, A25/B1 collapse to ~2 V and the ECU 5 V rails (D19/D20) sit near 0 V — the P28 is not powering up its internal 5 V rails in-circuit.
- The collapse happens when either connector A or connector B is plugged into the ECU (connector D alone does not cause the collapse). That localizes the problem to something tied into pins present on A and B (power distribution/components near connector A/B on the board).
- Grounds are good and fuses/relays appear fine, so the load is being introduced by the ECU or something that only connects when the ECU is mated to the harness.
- This strongly points to an internal ECU fault (power regulator, shorted pass device, shorted diode/MOSFET, bad cap, or a connector/pad problem on the P28 board).
- Checked & replaced fuses (ECU, fuel pump) and reseated/swapped relays
- Unplugged TPS, MAP, IACV (no change)
- Removed S300 when testing the ECU (no change)
- Confirmed grounds and harness continuity for VCC / sensor ground rails
- Open ECU and inspect PCB around connector A/B and the power regulation area (looking for lifted pads, cold joints, heat damage, bulging caps, solder bridges).
- Do diode/continuity testing on board traces from A25/B1 to power components to find a low-ohm path to ground.
- Use a series lamp (12 V incandescent), test off a battery with an inline fuse (5 A) to safely apply 12 V to the board and identify the hot/shorted component. I have a Sylvania 7443 bulb available for this.
- Replace/repair the faulted SMT/THT part (likely regulator, diode, MOSFET, or cap) and re-test.
- Has anyone seen a P28 behave like this (A25/B1 collapsing to ~2 V only when connector A or B is mated)?
- Any suggestions for the most likely components to check first around Connector A/B on a P28?
- If you have a common “spot” or part that fails on these boards after S300 installs, please share (photo/part number/repair tip appreciated).