Hondata

seems like MDNORM is not available as a live table on my 2017 FK8, but on another calibration for a 2021 FK8 it shows as a live table.

is this a bug for 2017 or maybe the other way around?

It does not really matter - the value is exposed so people get an idea how the target torque % is calculated. I don't expect the value needs to be changed. However I'll make the use of live tuning consistent.

Thanks, each and every table that could possibly be made "live" is extremely useful for those of us who are still trying to work our way through fully understanding this torque model and especially how to navigate our way through some of the mysterious limits we keep encountering with larger turbos/higher boost levels now that we have the fueling systems to feed them. With that said, in addition to MDNORM being made live, if it's possible we would also like to request that the KFMIRL and KFMIOP tables be made live, as well as the Throttle Torque request tables, with the understanding that there is a limit to how many live tables can exist within the memory limitations of the ECU. Even if we can only live tune one of the Throttle Torque tables at a time along with the KRMIRL,KFMIOP tables and MDNORM, that's a perfectly workable solution.

With respect to changing MDNORM and why we would need to change it, in our experience, actually manipulating the relationship between the value of MDNORM and the target torque value in the throttle tables as well as the values in the KFMIOP and KFMIRL tables seems to have helped the situation that we've been trying to remedy (choppiness in AirC resulting in compromised results), especially without the ability to see the torque and air charge targets/limits data channels on the FK8 logs.

It's taken a long time to work through the situation (and we haven't fully solved it yet) partly because of the time premium of being required to reflash the ECU to test each new approach. With as many torque/throttle tables being made available as live tables as possible, we could get much more testing accomplished in a given time frame.

Thanks again for working so hard to improve the best tuning platform for the K20C1 and the FK8/DE5/FL5. The recent updates have paid huge dividends already and are much appreciated!