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Ignition gear compensation

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:30 am
by Knox
Hello, I tuned a JDM FD2 type r with nitrous couple years ago and I'm using "ignition gear compensation" and retard the timing at 3-4-5th gears. Yesterday we go to dyno because of exhaust system, intake system change and I notice the "ignition gear compensation" did not work and engine knocks. First tune made on 3.9.3 and it works, yesterday I make the tuning with 4.0.3 and "ignition gear compensation" did not work, I checked there is newer firmware and version of FlashPro manager and download 4.0.5 and I checked again "ignition gear compensation" did not work again. Can you please check? I retard timing on main ignition map but it retards on all gears, I only want to retard on 3-4-5th gears.

Re: Ignition gear compensation

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:12 am
by Spunkster
Post the calibration and a datalog showing the issue.

Re: Ignition gear compensation

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:53 am
by Knox
Hello, thank you for support. I attached calibration and datalog. On 3000 rpm you will see the ignition map is between 40 and 37, so the ignition is 38 degrees. But it should be -6 when I at gear 3-4-5.

Re: Ignition gear compensation

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:42 am
by Spunkster
This does not mean that it will go from 27 dgrees to -6. It means that if conditions are met it will retard up do 6 degrees from the table value.

There are no nitrous controls to properly tune nitrous using the FlashPro.

Re: Ignition gear compensation

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:55 am
by Knox
So it retards if engine knocks ?
Can you please inform me about the conditions? May be I can find a way to use it.
Or can you make it retard depending only to gear on ignition gear compensation ? I mean when you make new version of flashpro manager.

Re: Ignition gear compensation

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:09 pm
by Knox
Spunkster wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:42 am This does not mean that it will go from 27 dgrees to -6. It means that if conditions are met it will retard up do 6 degrees from the table value.

There are no nitrous controls to properly tune nitrous using the FlashPro.
So it retards if engine knocks ?
Can you please inform me about the conditions? May be I can find a way to use it.
Or can you make it retard depending only to gear on ignition gear compensation ? I mean when you make new version of flashpro manager.

Re: Ignition gear compensation

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:06 am
by Spunkster
You need some kind of external controller that can reduce timing and add the needed fuel when using nitrous.

Re: Ignition gear compensation

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:06 am
by aoz
Spunkster wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:42 am This does not mean that it will go from 27 dgrees to -6. It means that if conditions are met it will retard up do 6 degrees from the table value.

There are no nitrous controls to properly tune nitrous using the FlashPro.
I have same issue.I am using it for traction I make -6 degree first and second gear.It was working on 3.9.3 when i updated newer firmware everything messed up.How can i use ignition gear compensetion again ? Can you tell me conditions please.