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Need help with logs and knock, is this bad gas?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:16 am
by Webhito
Attached is my custom tune from etunez, 3 datalogs, same tank of gas, done a few days apart.

I have been having issues with what seems to be bad gas, for some reason the first log was the first time I filled up with another brand and thought my issue was solved, logs 2 and 3 are on the same day, cold start and 15 minute later warm start, could this be something mechanical? I find it odd that from having barely any knock all of a sudden its back to where it was.

Mods are RBC Manifold, AEM Sri, Skunk 2.

Re: Need help with logs and knock, is this bad gas?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:52 am
by Spunkster
Have you discussed the issue with etunez?

Re: Need help with logs and knock, is this bad gas?

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:57 am
by Webhito
Still working on revisions, was only asking for a second opinion as I know diddly squat about tuning.

Re: Need help with logs and knock, is this bad gas?

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:54 pm
by Webhito
After 13 revisions I have ran into a dead end, tuner can no longer adjust and says its as good as it gets, sadly I am not savvy enough to say otherwise, mind you, the files attached here were made with the last revision sent to me.

Re: Need help with logs and knock, is this bad gas?

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:02 pm
by Spunkster
You can try reducing the timing in the areas you are getting knock.

Re: Need help with logs and knock, is this bad gas?

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:14 am
by Webhito
Spunkster wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:02 pm You can try reducing the timing in the areas you are getting knock.
Hi Spunkster,

Thank you for your suggestion, sadly, this is one of those things that I would rather leave to the pros as it seems like a recipe for disaster if done wrong.

Re: Need help with logs and knock, is this bad gas?

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:39 pm
by CalibratEd
You can’t go wrong with reducing the area by 2 degrees at a time. When you mentioned this issue to your tuner did they reduce timing in the area. It could also be false knock.

-Ed

Re: Need help with logs and knock, is this bad gas?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:48 am
by Webhito
CalibratEd wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:39 pm You can’t go wrong with reducing the area by 2 degrees at a time. When you mentioned this issue to your tuner did they reduce timing in the area. It could also be false knock.

-Ed
Hi, CalibratED

Tuner did say he believed most of it was false knock but was not a good idea to go wot, tried reducing as much as he could but was not able to eliminate it.

From what I see, most ignition at that level is negative, to reduce timing would I be going further away from 0 or closer?

Thank you.

Re: Need help with logs and knock, is this bad gas?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:02 am
by CalibratEd
The rule of thumb is that if they significantly reduced the timing and knock was still present than it’s false knock.

-Ed