Greetings,
I am currently new to the car scene as I just picked up a beautiful fb6 in white. I am wondering if I can tune my fb6 to pops, bang, 2 step and all that cool stuff on a CARB legal Hondata Flashpro? I don really care for tuning fo potential, I just want my car to sound good because the stock rev limiter at 4500 rpm is very annoying, it would sound better if I can make it like a 2 step so that it sounds better and pops will be nice too. I currently have a catback q300 from Invidia exhaust and that's it, I want to get maybe an aem or something carb legal intake and then if there is any carb legal header/downipe then I would like to get that as well. Overall, I just want the car to be carb legal because I live in cali and its strict here, therefore i just want the car to sound good with carb legal parts.
14 Si CARB legal Hondata Flashpro
Re: 14 Si CARB legal Hondata Flashpro
With the CARB legal FlashPro, you cannot make any adjustments to the tune that would allow for pops and bangs as these settings are set permanently. They have to be set in order for Hondata to get the CARB certification. Also, if you have the stock cat in the car, you don't want pops and bangs in the tune as damage to the engine and/or cat is likely to occur over extended use.
As far a CARB DP, I don't believe there is one because they all remove the OEM cat which doesn't allow for CARB certification.
Final note on the CARB Flashpro, you can't adjust fuel settings either. So if the CARB calibration doesn't work well with your parts combination, you're sort of stuck with it. No tuner would be able to go in and adjust fuel settings to dial in the fuel for you. Just something to keep in mind.
As far a CARB DP, I don't believe there is one because they all remove the OEM cat which doesn't allow for CARB certification.
Final note on the CARB Flashpro, you can't adjust fuel settings either. So if the CARB calibration doesn't work well with your parts combination, you're sort of stuck with it. No tuner would be able to go in and adjust fuel settings to dial in the fuel for you. Just something to keep in mind.
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phiacheng1
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Re: 14 Si CARB legal Hondata Flashpro
Okay, thanks for all the information. And just to be sure, CARB will not get me 2 step or pops at all, since I can't make any adjustment to a tune that is already set in by hondata? If thats the case, would it be better to jsut get a noncarb so taht I can 2 step it. I jsut want 2 step instead of the annoying rev limiter.
Re: 14 Si CARB legal Hondata Flashpro
Correct, the CARB FlashPro will not allow anyone to adjust settings that do anything you mention. The only things you can change in the CARB tunes are the vtec RPM, throttle pedal mapping, and some VTC cam angle mapping to follow the tables. Nothing that relates to ignition, or fuel, can be adjusted at all which gives you the things you want in your tune. CARB is very strict as you know, so the fact that Hondata was able to get a CARB certification is pretty cool.
Yes, you would have to purchase a race version to get it to do the things you want. Though I would highly caution to making it do the things you want with the stock cat in the car. You might research that stuff with having the stock cat still in the car. Not to mention, with the stock cat, even if someone were to help you make it do the things you want, the cat will arrest any of the pops/bangs and potential excitement you think the 2 step will give you. That's where the damage to the cat comes into play. You need to have a free flowing exhaust to make it do the things you see in YouTube videos. Just keep it in mind, not to sound like an overprotective parent, just be wise about it all and the impact the things you want can have on the engine and cat. Replacement cats aren't cheap and OEM used cats are illegal to sell in California. Out of curiosity I looked up the OEM cat, MSRP is only $868 so that's not too bad if damage is done to the cat https://www.bkhondaparts.com/oem-parts/ ... dhcw%3D%3D . But still be cautious, engine damage may not be so cheap.
Yes, you would have to purchase a race version to get it to do the things you want. Though I would highly caution to making it do the things you want with the stock cat in the car. You might research that stuff with having the stock cat still in the car. Not to mention, with the stock cat, even if someone were to help you make it do the things you want, the cat will arrest any of the pops/bangs and potential excitement you think the 2 step will give you. That's where the damage to the cat comes into play. You need to have a free flowing exhaust to make it do the things you see in YouTube videos. Just keep it in mind, not to sound like an overprotective parent, just be wise about it all and the impact the things you want can have on the engine and cat. Replacement cats aren't cheap and OEM used cats are illegal to sell in California. Out of curiosity I looked up the OEM cat, MSRP is only $868 so that's not too bad if damage is done to the cat https://www.bkhondaparts.com/oem-parts/ ... dhcw%3D%3D . But still be cautious, engine damage may not be so cheap.
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phiacheng1
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Re: 14 Si CARB legal Hondata Flashpro
Thanks for the watch out. I have decided to just go with carb and stay legal, but I am wondering, if I go carb and like you know mod my vtec rpm to an early engage instead of like stock factory one. So basically if I use carb legal on my ecu that will be fine to pass smog right? idk why i keep getting a feeling that it might not, and that i might need a piggyback ecu to mess with carb hondata
Re: 14 Si CARB legal Hondata Flashpro
You would need to do some datalogging to find out where vtec us happiest. If you go too low, it will fall on it's face a little, if it's too high you will lose power waiting for vtec to kick in. Based on your mods, I would keep it between 4500-5000, but don't go any lower than 4000 and no higher than 6000.
The CARB tune will pass smog no issues. All of the monitors will be set, so when you go to get smogged, all they do is check for readiness monitors set and no check engine light. The visual inspection is just looking for the stock cat and an intake with a CARB label. The CARB tune will pass smog though, that's the whole point of it. You can even pass smog using the race unit too, it just needs to have a properly calibrated tune to make it happen.
I'm not sure what you would plan to use to piggyback, but I wouldn't recommend that at all and defeats the purpose of buying a FlashPro either way. Don't piggyback anything on these, there is no point. Besides, I'm not sure what issues you can run into piggybacking an ECU with a FlashPro tune, you might be asking for more trouble there.
The CARB tune will pass smog no issues. All of the monitors will be set, so when you go to get smogged, all they do is check for readiness monitors set and no check engine light. The visual inspection is just looking for the stock cat and an intake with a CARB label. The CARB tune will pass smog though, that's the whole point of it. You can even pass smog using the race unit too, it just needs to have a properly calibrated tune to make it happen.
I'm not sure what you would plan to use to piggyback, but I wouldn't recommend that at all and defeats the purpose of buying a FlashPro either way. Don't piggyback anything on these, there is no point. Besides, I'm not sure what issues you can run into piggybacking an ECU with a FlashPro tune, you might be asking for more trouble there.