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K20A2 stock-tuned random idle surge

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:58 am
by XDarkPrinceX
Hello everybody! XD

Having issue with the stock-tuned map surging randomly and holding between 1050 to 1350 and having a long decay sometimes (can't forget about this when in gear), as far as I can see nothing else changes during data log that would make it do so. I did check TPS and it was 1.6% to 103% would this be the culprit? attached the map and last data log.

Re: K20A2 stock-tuned random idle surge

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:05 pm
by CalibratEd
I would suggest you check the engine for vacuum leaks.

-Ed

Re: K20A2 stock-tuned random idle surge

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:47 am
by XDarkPrinceX
If there was a leak it would be constantly random, I have idle set to 850 and 85% of time im at idle not moving its fine, it just randomly increases and holds anywhere between 1050 and 1350 for minutes at a time. On top of that swapping stock ECU back in has no issues it just purrs away.

Re: K20A2 stock-tuned random idle surge

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:39 am
by CalibratEd
XDarkPrinceX wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:47 am If there was a leak it would be constantly random, I have idle set to 850 and 85% of time im at idle not moving its fine, it just randomly increases and holds anywhere between 1050 and 1350 for minutes at a time. On top of that swapping stock ECU back in has no issues it just purrs away.
Have you tried the modified ecu in another car. It could be a bad install of hardware in the ECU.

-Ed

Re: K20A2 stock-tuned random idle surge

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:00 pm
by XDarkPrinceX
Everyone I know is either mopar lovers or have no idea about cars other than put key in and it goes. I've noticed jumps in ignition advance when this happens, could that be what is causing the surge to stay longer then it should? it just so odd it can last for minutes sitting at lights then next light it idles away 850 to 900 like it should, and sometimes a tap on the pedal to 2k and it drops back to normal idle, also I'm in Toronto so its alot colder here and the dyno tune from kmanager I believe was done in California, could the MAP and temperature differences be compensating the tune? Also don't want to hijack my own thread but the start on KPro calibration is sluggish compared to the stock ECU, stock I get 1 1/2 to 2 cranks before turnover, with the KPro it takes 4 1/4 to 6 cranks to turnover.

Re: K20A2 stock-tuned random idle surge

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:35 pm
by XDarkPrinceX
Just checked the first part of that datalog from when I left the stealership getting the ECU paired with my immobilizer and it surged at the lights after getting off the highway, IAT was fairly low 44f. this datalog ends when I stop at the bank, then starts again with the first file posted.

Re: K20A2 stock-tuned random idle surge

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:50 pm
by XDarkPrinceX
Datalog from cold start to my trip to the stealership

Re: K20A2 stock-tuned random idle surge

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:14 am
by KingK246
CalibratEd wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:39 am
XDarkPrinceX wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:47 am If there was a leak it would be constantly random, I have idle set to 850 and 85% of time im at idle not moving its fine, it just randomly increases and holds anywhere between 1050 and 1350 for minutes at a time. On top of that swapping stock ECU back in has no issues it just purrs away.
Have you tried the modified ecu in another car. It could be a bad install of hardware in the ECU.

-Ed
Been reading post and you're very knowledgeable can you help me with my uk ep3 type r?

Re: K20A2 stock-tuned random idle surge

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:03 pm
by CalibratEd
KingK246 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:14 am
CalibratEd wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:39 am
XDarkPrinceX wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:47 am If there was a leak it would be constantly random, I have idle set to 850 and 85% of time im at idle not moving its fine, it just randomly increases and holds anywhere between 1050 and 1350 for minutes at a time. On top of that swapping stock ECU back in has no issues it just purrs away.
Have you tried the modified ecu in another car. It could be a bad install of hardware in the ECU.

-Ed
Been reading post and you're very knowledgeable can you help me with my uk ep3 type r?
Sure. Let me know how I can help. Start your own thread or pm me.

-Ed

Re: K20A2 stock-tuned random idle surge

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:34 pm
by CalibratEd
Any luck with the car. I looked over the logs and file and i cant figure out what is making it fluctuate at idle.

-Ed