2008 honda si k20/24 basemap needed

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2008 honda si k20/24 basemap needed

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hey guys i have a 2008 honda civic si k24a2 with my k20z3 head type s oil pump rbc manifold exhaust header hybrid cold air intake. i dont know if you guys need anything eles. let me know.
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Re: 2008 honda si k20/24 basemap needed

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You’re all good man, you don’t have to delete any posts. I just don’t want to work on your stuff in someone else’s thread so they aren’t getting notifications for the posts and discuss another car in their thread. It’s all good to reach out like you did.

So I’ll get the first file together for you. Did you determine where you want the rev limit to be? There is so much info out there it’s hard to say which is safe.

What year is your K24A2?
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Re: 2008 honda si k20/24 basemap needed

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EFICU wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:10 pm You’re all good man, you don’t have to delete any posts. I just don’t want to work on your stuff in someone else’s thread so they aren’t getting notifications for the posts and discuss another car in their thread. It’s all good to reach out like you did.

So I’ll get the first file together for you. Did you determine where you want the rev limit to be? There is so much info out there it’s hard to say which is safe.

What year is your K24A2?
its from the 07 tsx american model...umm as it relates to rev limit 8500rpm should be good... what do you suggest?
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Re: 2008 honda si k20/24 basemap needed

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Sounds good. Did you do any clay work or anything to check piston to valve clearance while you were putting it together? For the rev limit, I would sort of recommend let's see how the fuel curves fall off up top, if it runs out of steam at say 8200, there wouldn't be much reason to go higher than that unless you want to brag or make it scream once in a while. Or, we can run it at 8500, but plan to shift at 8200 or so in the future and have it at 8500 for fun sometimes and protection if you miss a shift. I just don't want to run you on the edge unless that is what you want. I'm not good at taking risks with people's cars, it gives me anxiety, haha. So as long as you're good with what it's set at, it's all good with me. I just want to make sure it's where you're comfortable and we're not setting it too low or too high based on your wants, it's your car, so I want to make sure you have what you want. It sounds like you have the right parts with the oil pump and the 07 block, so that is good for sure.

So here is the first file. We will be starting on the 0* cam angle with Vtec at 5500. For datalogs, we need them to be 20-30 minutes of stop and go type driving. Avoid long steady speed driving basically. On the drive, we need one wide open throttle (WOT) pull in third gear from 2500-8500. Keep the driving normal and calm, and only one WOT pull for this first one so I can get some data before you have too much fun. I like to get some data before you get after it too much. Starting on the 0* cam will be sort of sluggish feeling, it's just a starting point to help build data. It will get better as we go, especially with the setup you have of course being the most desired for sure.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Mountain_FG2.SD.Rev01 (0Cam)(Vtec5500).fpcal
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Re: 2008 honda si k20/24 basemap needed

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EFICU wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:29 pm Sounds good. Did you do any clay work or anything to check piston to valve clearance while you were putting it together? For the rev limit, I would sort of recommend let's see how the fuel curves fall off up top, if it runs out of steam at say 8200, there wouldn't be much reason to go higher than that unless you want to brag or make it scream once in a while. Or, we can run it at 8500, but plan to shift at 8200 or so in the future and have it at 8500 for fun sometimes and protection if you miss a shift. I just don't want to run you on the edge unless that is what you want. I'm not good at taking risks with people's cars, it gives me anxiety, haha. So as long as you're good with what it's set at, it's all good with me. I just want to make sure it's where you're comfortable and we're not setting it too low or too high based on your wants, it's your car, so I want to make sure you have what you want. It sounds like you have the right parts with the oil pump and the 07 block, so that is good for sure.

So here is the first file. We will be starting on the 0* cam angle with Vtec at 5500. For datalogs, we need them to be 20-30 minutes of stop and go type driving. Avoid long steady speed driving basically. On the drive, we need one wide open throttle (WOT) pull in third gear from 2500-8500. Keep the driving normal and calm, and only one WOT pull for this first one so I can get some data before you have too much fun. I like to get some data before you get after it too much. Starting on the 0* cam will be sort of sluggish feeling, it's just a starting point to help build data. It will get better as we go, especially with the setup you have of course being the most desired for sure.

Let me know if you have any questions. Mountain_FG2.SD.Rev01 (0Cam)(Vtec5500).

I'm grateful for you helping me...let keep it at 8200 to be safe i agree with everything you said...now we didnt do any clay work as its a direct bolt on so the answer is no.the only question i have is to be patient with getting the data log back to you. and secondly do the data logs separately??.lastly i will download the calibration you sent.
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No problem, happy to help. You have the holy grail of setups so it should be fun. Yeah I don't think you have any piston to valve clearance issues with the 07 pistons, so we will be fine. Your setup will most likely max out around 40* vtc so we should be just fun either way. I just wanted to check with you in case you did clay for clearance check. We should be fine.

Not sure what you're asking me about being patient with datalogs, are you telling me to be patient with you getting them back to me or wondering how long until I get the next revision to you once you post the datalog? And no, you can do the normal drive for 20-30 minutes, and anywhere on that drive find a safe place to make a third gear pull from 2500-8200. All in one datalog is easier, I can trim them as needed to get the data I need.

Here is the same calibration but with the rev limit at 8200 if you want to run this one.
Mountain_FG2.SD.Rev01.1 (0Cam)(Vtec5500)(8200Rev).fpcal
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Re: 2008 honda si k20/24 basemap needed

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EFICU wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:51 pm No problem, happy to help. You have the holy grail of setups so it should be fun. Yeah I don't think you have any piston to valve clearance issues with the 07 pistons, so we will be fine. Your setup will most likely max out around 40* vtc so we should be just fun either way. I just wanted to check with you in case you did clay for clearance check. We should be fine.

Not sure what you're asking me about being patient with datalogs, are you telling me to be patient with you getting them back to me or wondering how long until I get the next revision to you once you post the datalog? And no, you can do the normal drive for 20-30 minutes, and anywhere on that drive find a safe place to make a third gear pull from 2500-8200. All in one datalog is easier, I can trim them as needed to get the data I need.

Here is the same calibration but with the rev limit at 8200 if you want to run this one.

Mountain_FG2.SD.Rev01.1 (0Cam)(Vtec5500)(8200Rev).fpcal
hey i hope you weren't think i was being rude when i say be patient with. i was meaning i get busy at work some times so i wouldn't be able to send the data log back in a quick manner. yea im loving this build.
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No not at all, I just didn't quite understand what you meant is all. Okay no problem, for this first one, try to get it back as quick as possible so I can clean up any big chunks before you go driving on it for an extended period of time. It should be close, but I like to clean up any big chunks quickly so we can get it close right away. Even if all you can do is a 10 minute datalog or something for the first one, that's fine. Other than that, you can take your time with them as once I can some initial data it is usually very close throughout the process as we tune each cam angle.
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Re: 2008 honda si k20/24 basemap needed

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EFICU wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:12 pm No not at all, I just didn't quite understand what you meant is all. Okay no problem, for this first one, try to get it back as quick as possible so I can clean up any big chunks before you go driving on it for an extended period of time. It should be close, but I like to clean up any big chunks quickly so we can get it close right away. Even if all you can do is a 10 minute datalog or something for the first one, that's fine. Other than that, you can take your time with them as once I can some initial data it is usually very close throughout the process as we tune each cam angle.
okay great will do...
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Re: 2008 honda si k20/24 basemap needed

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mountain_fg2 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:00 pm
EFICU wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:51 pm No problem, happy to help. You have the holy grail of setups so it should be fun. Yeah I don't think you have any piston to valve clearance issues with the 07 pistons, so we will be fine. Your setup will most likely max out around 40* vtc so we should be just fun either way. I just wanted to check with you in case you did clay for clearance check. We should be fine.

Not sure what you're asking me about being patient with datalogs, are you telling me to be patient with you getting them back to me or wondering how long until I get the next revision to you once you post the datalog? And no, you can do the normal drive for 20-30 minutes, and anywhere on that drive find a safe place to make a third gear pull from 2500-8200. All in one datalog is easier, I can trim them as needed to get the data I need.

Here is the same calibration but with the rev limit at 8200 if you want to run this one.

Mountain_FG2.SD.Rev01.1 (0Cam)(Vtec5500)(8200Rev).fpcal
hey i hope you weren't think i was being rude when i say be patient with. i was meaning i get busy at work some times so i wouldn't be able to send the data log back in a quick manner. yea im loving this build.
Hey man what's up I hope all is great...I went a different route with car. Meaning I left the full k24a2 fromthe 07 tsx. All I did was use my rbc manifold form my k20z3 I'm using a 421 aftermarket exhaust header and a dc short ram intake.the car will be complete tommorow as I'm not sure it will start.but can you send me a revise base map please. And if it's any thing u may need to know just let me know.
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Re: 2008 honda si k20/24 basemap needed

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EFICU wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:51 pm No problem, happy to help. You have the holy grail of setups so it should be fun. Yeah I don't think you have any piston to valve clearance issues with the 07 pistons, so we will be fine. Your setup will most likely max out around 40* vtc so we should be just fun either way. I just wanted to check with you in case you did clay for clearance check. We should be fine.

Not sure what you're asking me about being patient with datalogs, are you telling me to be patient with you getting them back to me or wondering how long until I get the next revision to you once you post the datalog? And no, you can do the normal drive for 20-30 minutes, and anywhere on that drive find a safe place to make a third gear pull from 2500-8200. All in one datalog is easier, I can trim them as needed to get the data I need.

Here is the same calibration but with the rev limit at 8200 if you want to run this one.

Mountain_FG2.SD.Rev01.1 (0Cam)(Vtec5500)(8200Rev).fpcal
Also can you let vtec come in a bit early rather than 5500rpm
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Re: 2008 honda si k20/24 basemap needed

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Hey man what's up I hope all is great...I went a different route with car. Meaning I left the full k24a2 fromthe 07 tsx. All I did was use my rbc manifold form my k20z3 I'm using a 421 aftermarket exhaust header and a dc short ram intake.the car will be complete tommorow as I'm not sure it will start.but can you send me a revise base map please. And if it's any thing u may need to know just let me know.
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Since you're keeping the RBC, the basemap I sent you will work fine for a start. Just let me know if you're still comfortable with the 8200 rpm limit is all.

As var as vtec, we have to tune each cam angle to get you the best tune. We will be moving vtec up and down throughout each cam angle, so 5500 will not be the ultimate rpm we choose. Right now having it at 5500 is a tuning tool. Remember on this first drive, keep the driving normal and calm, don't get too aggressive with it.
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Re: 2008 honda si k20/24 basemap needed

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EFICU wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:36 pm Since you're keeping the RBC, the basemap I sent you will work fine for a start. Just let me know if you're still comfortable with the 8200 rpm limit is all.

As var as vtec, we have to tune each cam angle to get you the best tune. We will be moving vtec up and down throughout each cam angle, so 5500 will not be the ultimate rpm we choose. Right now having it at 5500 is a tuning tool. Remember on this first drive, keep the driving normal and calm, don't get too aggressive with it.
Okay it started up with out the calibration but I'm going to put it on I want a 7400 rev limit as everything is still stock oil pump n vtc all still k24. But I know I'll.need a tune with the hybrid racing manifold when I install it. But I'll let you know when it's install.
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Gotcha, My brain was thinking you had the oil pump installed. Yeah take it for a drive that calibration, and only rev it to 7000-7400 for the third gear pull. In the next calibration, I’ll change the rev limit and all the cam angles maps since 25* is our new max angle. So just be mindful that the limiter is at 8200 in that first calibration, but I’ll fix it in the next one.
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