NEW TO FLASHPRO, 07 CIVIC SI; K&N SRI LOOKING FOR CALIBRATION

[DaCalviOne]

First time user of hondata flashpro, I have a FA5 K20Z3 with the only mod for now being K&N SRI. I'm using the completely stock tuned file because I read it was best suggested for my car over the K&N SRI. I'm NEW to datalogging but have been keeping track on my WOT and knocks, and just want to see if anyone can review them and maybe help me get it close to possible? The new update seemed to be a nice update, so i was able to get fresh datalogging, I hope to buy headers and exhaust in the near future but just want to enjoy the car what it is for now, thank you

[EFICU]

You would probably be better off using a MAP based tune with intake. They tend to run a little bit better on the MAP calibration any time the stock intake tube has been replaced.

The calibration you're driving on isn't too bad, but it needs some things modified to get the ECU to operate properly for WOT. Part of it is, when you are going WOT, you are only pushing the pedal 65% and the throttle body is only opening 82%, which won't engage open loop ECU operation to deliver proper WOT fueling. You need to look at and see if something is interfering with the pedal assembly keeping it from going to the floor. Once you get it to go WOT, then you can determine how the fueling looks. From the little bit it does go WOT, it's a little on the rich side. Other than that, too much cam angle and too much ignition are the other issues in that calibration.

[DaCalviOne]

OK so should I try the K&N SRI one that is loaded since they just did the update? I won't lie I was on a open road but I didn't push all the way down due to dips and such, I can find a better spot today to recognize if I have to switch it.

[EFICU]

It's fine, I just wanted to make sure we didn't have another issue of some sort and that going WOT is possible.

How soon in the near future are you planning to add more mods?

[DaCalviOne]

i was hoping in the next 2 months getting headers and exhaust for the car along with a rear motor mount, really want to try invidia headers and q300
i did also try a MAP and did see a big differance compared to MAF, but i think ill just work out the kinks using a MAF because i want the small perks lol.

[EFICU]

Okay, I’ll take a look at the datalogs when I get back to my laptop. What perks are you referring to?

[DaCalviOne]

Oil level and some gauges working, I don't plan on gaining crazy speed from a basemap just want car to be running right until I get FBO

[EFICU]

The newest datalogs you posted are the same as the ones you posted a few days ago. Double check the datalog files in your FlashPro and see if you can find the ones with the MAP tune.

As far as the oil reminder and stuff, that issue happens when you use a race calibration such as the one you chose. We can MAP tune it without using a race calibration and you shouldn't have any of the issues you're concerned about. Nobody should be using race calibrations today per Hondata, there is no need for them anymore, especially for street cars. With a proper tune now, you can be MAP based and not have the issue you mention.

Double check those datalogs and let me know. Then we can discuss which route to go.

[DaCalviOne]

I did send the same ones as before on accident, either way I definitely will probably just try and tune that stock tuned calibration I sent first, I did go back and try the K&N SRI maf and I feel like it runs worse than the stock tuned, I am datalogging today though. I will upload the MAP datalog as soon as I'm back at my laptop

[EFICU]

I see. Okay. It’s up to you, either that or we can start you on my basefile and use that as a start. That takes a lot of the work out of the equation because it’s already done and then adjust it for your car. Then you can tell me whether you want to go MAF or MAP tuned. We can even try a hybrid calibration where it runs on the MAF at part throttle and the MAP sensor for WOT. Just let me know what you want to do.

[DaCalviOne]

whatever enables me to still have full functional gauges is fine for me like i said just want the most i can get until FBO.we can start with yours if its the easiest route, like i said my only mods are the intake. hybrid sounds pretty interesting i wont lie lol. heres the map logs also

[EFICU]

Those are the same datalogs again.

Let's just have you start on my file for you, and let's go from there. Since you're interested in the hybrid calibration, we will try that first. We can always try one with strictly MAP strategies too and you can compare. With the K&N intake, the hybrid should be fine, but we will see how it looks in the first datalog. Since it's a simple intake, it should work fine.

For the datalogs, we need them to be 20-30 minutes in length with stop and go type driving. Avoid long steady speed driving. We want like stop and go to give us more data. On the drive, make one wide open throttle (WOT) pull in third gear from 2500-8600. Only make one WOT pull right now until I get some data, then in the next one you can have a lot more fun. I just like to see some data before you head and out get aggressive with it.

Give this one a drive and we will see how it looks. I put vtec at 4300 for now, I might move it up a bit, but we'll see once we get some data. And please double check, and perhaps delete all files on your FlashPro before you head out. That way we can be sure to get the right datalogs sent to me.

DaCalviOne.Hybrid.Rev01 (Vtec4300).fpcal

[DaCalviOne]

Sorry about the delay, i saw your reply on my way to work. just got the datalog. shouuld be atleast 28 to 30 minutes. i tried to catch as much stops as possible but i live in a place connected to a main road so at nights they are open. i got the WOT in also. I have to say the differance from that on my car was huge. I was blown away by the response time and throttle alone. Didn't know how i would feel at first about the raised idle and i like that alot also. let me know what you think.

[EFICU]

Yeah it looked really good honestly. I am surprised how well the K&N intake works with the MAF sensor tune. The MAF scale was very close from a tuned stock intake file I did. I made a few MAF scaling changes to tighten it up some. WOT fueling was pretty good for a start, I made a few changes there as well. There is was knock which is great. All in all things are looking good, and I'm, glad you're happy with the performance. We'll see how it looks in this next one. Keep the same datalog and driving style, but feel free to have some more fun with it now that I've see some data. It's plenty safe to have more fun with it if you want.

Oh, and vtec might be a little better at 4600. See what you think on this one. If you like it more at 4300 that's fine, based on the data though, 4600 might provide a better crossover. Your feeling in the car is more important than the data there, so let me know what you think.

DaCalviOne.Hybrid.Rev02 (Vtec4600).fpcal

[EFICU]

Sorry I glossed over the idle comment. Yeah I always liked it at 850 on my 8th gen, especially with the AC on. If you want to have it at 750, it's an easy change. Just let me know, nothing is set in stone.