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Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:14 am
by fulken
I am street tuning my URGE Design ITB (Apha-N) set up. After I pull 6K RPM in high cam, the engine shuts off. It happened on 3rd, 4th and 5th gear pull.

The Datalog shows, right after TPS is reduced at 6112 RPM, AFR gets rich (Datalog at 2:23) then the engine shuts off. I have to crank to restart the engine. (popping the clutch while the car is moving does not start the engine)

I think it might be something simple but I am scratching my head. I appreciate your advice!

Cheers!

Re: Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:04 am
by fulken
The engine also shut off with 2nd gear after a pull.

Played around with" over run cutoff (high cam)" between 15 to 32 (over 3000 rpm). It did not stop the shut off.

Re: Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:50 am
by Spunkster
Is the MAP sensor connected and reading vacuum through a vacuum accumulator?

Have you set the MAP value fully closed and open?

Re: Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:48 am
by fulken
Yes, a MAP sensor is connected and reading vacuum through a vacuum block.

I have not set the MAP value for fully closed and open. Can you explain how to determine the value?
Can I use the data log value for idle reading for fully closed? and WOT value for fully open?

Thank you very much for the help!

Re: Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:08 pm
by Spunkster
Yes you can do it that way.

Re: Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:15 pm
by brenthay
It seems like this is the exact issue i'm having.

I have the values set based on figures i saw on my data log (10kpa closed and 100kpa open throttle) and it didn't change anything.

Re: Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:58 pm
by Spunkster
Judging by the calibration, someone has modified the column indexing as it is not the same as the Alpha-N calibration built into the software. I would recommend starting with that calibration and tune from there.

Re: Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:14 pm
by fulken
Thank you very much for the help!

I do not have the Alpha-N calibration built into the software. Can you share the calibration?

Thank you!!

Re: Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:40 am
by fulken
What are the conditions that makes injector to stop responding?

Re: Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:23 am
by Hondata
TPS not scaling from 0% to 100% would be the first thing to fix.

Re: Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:22 am
by fulken
I adjusted parameter table to scale from 0% to 100%. (by adjusting MAP value throttle fully open)

The engine still shuts off after high cam pull. After the pull, throttle make zero impact to the injector pulse.

Thank you very much!

Re: Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:09 pm
by Spunkster
Click the new calibration button in the software and choose the ITB calibration that has the Alpha-N enabled.

Re: Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:06 am
by fulken
Thank you very much for the tip!

I hope the attached image is the one you are suggesting. Can I get conformation?
Other ITB examples are not Alpha-N.

Why does the TPS go up to 313% (not around 100%)?

Thank you!!

INJ stops responding to TPS

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:58 am
by fulken
After a pull on high cam, TPS and INJ become 0% (overrun cutoff), then INJ no longer responds to TPS and engine shuts off.

What causes this?

Thanks for your help!

Re: Engine shuts off after a pull

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:28 am
by Spunkster
That is correct. Go to Options, and check show boost tables.