2200 RPM bucking, misfiring
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:19 am
2002 Civic Si
Kmanager 4.2.5
Relevant modifications:
3 inch intake with Ktuned velocity stack
OBX race header
Greddy catback
RDX 410cc injectors
lightweight flywheel
stock A3 IM (without the variable intake runners)
Ktuned TPS
MAP and IAT sensors are stock
Stock IAC
Kpro acquired with the car - previous owner didn't know he had it
The issue is that I am experiencing bucking at around 20-30% throttle from about 2k to 2.5k. So this is basically throttle open when exiting a low speed corner. My autocross club loves to throw a tight bend before the finish and I am exiting those corners like a broken lawnmower.
The log shows that my AF is bucking around and no amount of fuel tuning seems to fix this. I disabled the tip in retard entirely because I was actually getting ignition retard rather than ignition advance. Since I've done that, this problem is less bad, but it is very difficult to launch the car smoothly without too much riding on the clutch. The problem manifests itself in every gear except first, although I'm going to guess that first is so aggressive that I don't have time to notice any irregularities.
On some occasions, if I don't get aggressive from the start, I will bog soon after engaging the clutch. Those are pretty dangerous situations especially if you are pulling into traffic. So to compensate, I usually do a kind of "mini launch" to get the RPM out of the problem area as soon as possible.
I've really racked my brain on this one. I thought maybe it was the VTEC threshold, then maybe the target AF and the interpolation from medium load to heavy load, then I though maybe it was the ignition advance, but I just don't know. I even ran more ignition advance, which I think was helpful a little bit.
I've attached the data log. The fluctuations in RPM and the jumps in AFR are exactly where the bucking manifests itself.
I suppose I should qualify this by saying that the car is worth $0 and I am not taking it to a tuner. The closest tuner is good and has done a car for me before but they cost between $500 and $1000 to get the car tuned, and it just isn't worth it on a 15 year old Civic. So any help you can provide me is very very very very much appreciated.
Kmanager 4.2.5
Relevant modifications:
3 inch intake with Ktuned velocity stack
OBX race header
Greddy catback
RDX 410cc injectors
lightweight flywheel
stock A3 IM (without the variable intake runners)
Ktuned TPS
MAP and IAT sensors are stock
Stock IAC
Kpro acquired with the car - previous owner didn't know he had it
The issue is that I am experiencing bucking at around 20-30% throttle from about 2k to 2.5k. So this is basically throttle open when exiting a low speed corner. My autocross club loves to throw a tight bend before the finish and I am exiting those corners like a broken lawnmower.
The log shows that my AF is bucking around and no amount of fuel tuning seems to fix this. I disabled the tip in retard entirely because I was actually getting ignition retard rather than ignition advance. Since I've done that, this problem is less bad, but it is very difficult to launch the car smoothly without too much riding on the clutch. The problem manifests itself in every gear except first, although I'm going to guess that first is so aggressive that I don't have time to notice any irregularities.
On some occasions, if I don't get aggressive from the start, I will bog soon after engaging the clutch. Those are pretty dangerous situations especially if you are pulling into traffic. So to compensate, I usually do a kind of "mini launch" to get the RPM out of the problem area as soon as possible.
I've really racked my brain on this one. I thought maybe it was the VTEC threshold, then maybe the target AF and the interpolation from medium load to heavy load, then I though maybe it was the ignition advance, but I just don't know. I even ran more ignition advance, which I think was helpful a little bit.
I've attached the data log. The fluctuations in RPM and the jumps in AFR are exactly where the bucking manifests itself.
I suppose I should qualify this by saying that the car is worth $0 and I am not taking it to a tuner. The closest tuner is good and has done a car for me before but they cost between $500 and $1000 to get the car tuned, and it just isn't worth it on a 15 year old Civic. So any help you can provide me is very very very very much appreciated.