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D16 Turbo ignition map

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:04 am
by stormchaser
Hello, Ive not long bought a Civic with a D16 turbo engine, unfortunately the previous owner did not supply me with the map from the car and subsequently the map was wiped from the ECU by a local garage who connected the Hondata software. I have downloaded a base map from here which I have uploaded and the car starts and runs and I have made alterations to the fueling so it is fueling OK but I need a question answered about the ignition map that I want to clarify with you guys on here before I start doing anything with the ignition map. The AVCR has been set to run up to 1.5 bar of boost but I just want to do a reasonably sedate map just to run at 0.5 bar boost before I take it to a tuner for proper tuning. My understanding is this that for every 1psi of boost pressure the ignition would need to be retarded 1-2 degrees of advance but looking at a 3d version of the map it would look like a mountain with the ignition values going advance and then retarded as it comes on boost, How much difference would I expect to see ignition map from the base map shown here? Also there are the two ignition and 2 fuel maps showing but when you click on to the second one of each it immediately reverts back to the first one?

Re: D16 Turbo ignition map

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:19 am
by Spunkster
Under the Options menu, uncheck tables follow VTEC and then when you are looking at a datalog you can switch between the high and low cam tables without it jumping back.

Re: D16 Turbo ignition map

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:05 pm
by stormchaser
Ok, at what point would the second maps be used?

Re: D16 Turbo ignition map

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:06 pm
by Spunkster
You do not need to use secondary maps unless you are planning to tune for some other fuel type.

Re: D16 Turbo ignition map

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:48 pm
by stormchaser
So would it be best to make a map with no boost and then retard the timing in accordance to the boost levels or just build a semi composite map of ignition with a top advance of say 25 degrees?

Re: D16 Turbo ignition map

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:28 am
by forevertrj
there is an automated option once you have all the fuel up to 0.4 Inch/Hg manifold pressure tuned you can click on, EDIT-->create boost tables--> and click on retard ignition 0.75 degrees per LB boost, if you want to be safer change that to 0.7 I believe, then look below at fuel tables and click on add fuel under boost and 120% naturally aspirated, boom your map will change and you'll have boost tables for fuel and timing