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Individual Cylinder Ignition Trim

Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 9:14 pm
by iketh
I'm sacrificing fuel mileage for power because this table doesn't have a high and low. The trim needed on high cam is significantly larger than low cam. Would be a good addition for tuning.

Re: Individual Cylinder Ignition Trim

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 8:06 am
by Hondata
At low/medium load ignition timing makes very little difference to fuel economy.

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Re: Individual Cylinder Ignition Trim

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 10:18 am
by iketh
ok but you're not taking into account change in fuel requirements... the cylinder needing most retard requires the most fuel, so the power benefits are larger than your chart implies

the purpose is to even out power and a/f ratio between each cylinder, so I think the benefits are tangible having a separate WOT table for both fuel and ignition cylinder trims

Re: Individual Cylinder Ignition Trim

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:03 am
by Hondata
Sorry, I thought you meant ignition trim. Individual cylinder fuel trim is a percentage, so an adjustment will be correct over all load ranges. It is hard to adjust without individual lambda sensors.
he cylinder needing most retard requires the most fuel
I do not believe that this is true.

Re: Individual Cylinder Ignition Trim

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 6:37 pm
by iketh
Hondata wrote:Individual cylinder fuel trim is a percentage
shoot you're right... how about ignition trim being a percentage too :)

Re: Individual Cylinder Ignition Trim

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:10 am
by Hondata
No, ignition trim must be a relative trim. As a percentage it would be hard to determine what the base should be (probably not TDC).

Re: Individual Cylinder Ignition Trim

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:31 am
by iketh
yea it would be a value in the table