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Too rich AFR after throttle tip-in! Need help!

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 3:29 pm
by Starter
Hi all. I need help.
Year ago I bought Civic 6gen with B16A engine and Hondata S300. Car was tuned up and for the first time I was really happy. But one day I compare my car and another B16A, we go almost quarter mile and I lose about 2 or 3 seconds.
I try to find out "Why I lose so much!?". I replace many parts(spark-plugs, pressure regulator, DISTRIBUTOR, injectors, intake filter) without any results.
Now I searching for problems in my calibration and I found something.
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On this picture from my datalog you can see strange Injector pulse width after I shifting gear and smashing gas, in first second AFR is good(12.94) but in next second AFR become 10.5 and slowly go to 12.5 when it happens car start jerking.
So the question about Injector pulse width. Why after I smash the gas Injector pulse width grow up, I don't have any Throttle tip in trim in my calibration and as you can see Injector pulse width grows more if I shifting to the high gear.

Re: Too rich AFR after throttle tip-in! Need help!

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 4:59 pm
by Spunkster
You need to post a datalog showing the problem.

Re: Too rich AFR after throttle tip-in! Need help!

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 3:18 pm
by Starter
Spunkster wrote:You need to post a datalog showing the problem.
No problem.
This screen from "short run on track.s3d"

Re: Too rich AFR after throttle tip-in! Need help!

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:10 pm
by Spunkster
Try a negative tip in value in the fuel trim section of parameters.

Re: Too rich AFR after throttle tip-in! Need help!

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:32 pm
by Starter
Spunkster wrote:Try a negative tip in value in the fuel trim section of parameters.
Done this. But results were not so good as I expected. If I set negative tip in more than -3%(-5% or -7%) , after shifting car start jerking more and more. And the "strange Injector pulse width" didn't gone anywhere.
Please could you tell me more about this tables:
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What do they do?
I read several times about this tables in help, but didn't understand anything!
What a strange values(77, 77, 102, 128, 256, 256)?

Re: Too rich AFR after throttle tip-in! Need help!

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:47 am
by darton
also you are running so rich on the low cam. tune the car to 13.20 AFR @ WOT as flat as possible.

Re: Too rich AFR after throttle tip-in! Need help!

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:43 am
by Starter
darton wrote:also you are running so rich on the low cam. tune the car to 13.20 AFR @ WOT as flat as possible.
Yepp, I'll do my best! =)
Do you know something about Tip In Tables?
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