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car goes lean on wot
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:16 pm
by rasheedn
Hi guys,
This is the 1st flashpro car i tune and i am having a weird problem
when going wot the car goes from target 12:5 afr to 14:00 afr
i tried to re-sale maf and to add stupid amounts of fuel and its still reading lean
this is on the stock o2 sensor (i read its a wideband and should be good for the job)
I tuned the closed loop and the corrections are very minor around 1-3% max
the car is stock euro fn2 except for an aem intake
any ideas?
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:52 pm
by Spunkster
Without the calibration and datalogs showing the issue it impossible to speculate.
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:17 pm
by rasheedn
here u go
this is a stock file with cl maf slightly tuned
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:48 am
by nunoctr
You have to tune fuel in the correct way with the AFM calibrations.
Go to sensors and AFM flow. Go to mass flow and add 6% or 7% in all the mass flow values above 3,71v (don't change the voltage values. I seen you have change this voltage before).
If your car is still lean you have a dead o2 sensor.
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:39 am
by rasheedn
this is what i did on a previous file
and it stayed lean
so dead o2 sensor right?
cant be that lean without melting something (client has been bashing the car for a month and its like this)
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:16 pm
by nunoctr
No it can't. It is running with 86% duty cycle. I think that when you install a new sensor you will see that the car is running rich.
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:40 pm
by rasheedn
replaced the o2 sensor and same thing
im looking closely at the afm reading and it looks messed up
maybe the sensor is old and needs replacing?
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:22 pm
by rasheedn
i just noticed that during a wot pull the s.trim goes up to 46% and the car hesitates during this period
i thought the s.trim would not be active during wot driving ??
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:17 pm
by Spunkster
Check the wide open throttle determination pressure in the closed loop section of parameters.
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:57 am
by nunoctr
rasheedn wrote:i just noticed that during a wot pull the s.trim goes up to 46% and the car hesitates during this period
i thought the s.trim would not be active during wot driving ??
did you change the values in the wot lambda adjustment tables?
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:59 am
by nunoctr
rasheedn wrote:replaced the o2 sensor and same thing
im looking closely at the afm reading and it looks messed up
maybe the sensor is old and needs replacing?
your map pressure is very low at WOT close to 900 when it should be close to 1000.
Also is this car running the last version of the FP manager? or an old one? If it's old, download the last one FPmanager and upload again the cal.
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:04 pm
by rasheedn
nunoctr wrote:rasheedn wrote:i just noticed that during a wot pull the s.trim goes up to 46% and the car hesitates during this period
i thought the s.trim would not be active during wot driving ??
did you change the values in the wot lambda adjustment tables?
no i didn't
am i supposed to???
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:07 pm
by rasheedn
nunoctr wrote:rasheedn wrote:replaced the o2 sensor and same thing
im looking closely at the afm reading and it looks messed up
maybe the sensor is old and needs replacing?
your map pressure is very low at WOT close to 900 when it should be close to 1000.
Also is this car running the last version of the FP manager? or an old one? If it's old, download the last one FPmanager and upload again the cal.
ummm so what does that mean if my map pressure is low? ?
yea latest versions installed
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:10 am
by Shunjy
Same problem on two FN2 Type R
On MAP tune
After 6000 rpm the AFR sensor reading go up 14.7 !!! with last update !
Re: car goes lean on wot
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:44 pm
by Hondata
Can you post the calibration and a datalog? We have not made any changes to the FN2 since February, so it seems unlikely that the last update caused a problem.