Hondata

here is a kal I am using from keto. I change some stuff after running some datalogg but not sure it is safe to run. been reading at bunch of website on how to adjust fuel , air fuel, and to get rid of knocks.

mods
04 k20a
short ram intake
shorty dc header
stock 05 piping and muffler
rbc with hondata img and tb gasket

any help checking this kal and revise would be cool.

new to kpro

Thanks

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what you think Keto, is the kal looking ok or do I need to modify more. When retarding the ignition for knocks, do I just adjust it when the knock happens or do I adjust it throughout the whole length until the next knock?

I havent looked at the file yet, but it really depends. Sometimes I just adjust 1 box, or two, sometimes 4, even 6. Sometimes if its a single knock thats not reproduced, I might not touch anything.

I cant use KManager on my work computer but Ill try and rememebr when I get home.

My email is keto06 @ gmail . com

ignitecivic wrote:what you think Keto, is the kal looking ok or do I need to modify more. When retarding the ignition for knocks, do I just adjust it when the knock happens or do I adjust it throughout the whole length until the next knock?

You have to adjust 20° and 30° IGN maps in the area where knock ocured.
In your case it is rectangular area - col 8,9,10 from 2000 to 2500. Substact -2 form IGN values in the map. Datalog to see if it helped.
Also AF should be a bit richer in that area (it should be around 13:1 over there).

So first fix that AFR, then adjust IGN.

Also your AFR after VTEC point at 4000 to 5250 is way too rich. Fix that to 12,5-13,2. The same goes to 7000+rpm (aim to 12,5 AFR there).

Dan

LK7R wrote:

ignitecivic wrote:what you think Keto, is the kal looking ok or do I need to modify more. When retarding the ignition for knocks, do I just adjust it when the knock happens or do I adjust it throughout the whole length until the next knock?

You have to adjust 20° and 30° IGN maps in the area where knock ocured.
In your case it is rectangular area - col 8,9,10 from 2000 to 2500. Substact -2 form IGN values in the map. Datalog to see if it helped.
Also AF should be a bit richer in that area (it should be around 13:1 over there).

So first fix that AFR, then adjust IGN.

Also your AFR after VTEC point at 4000 to 5250 is way too rich. Fix that to 12,5-13,2. The same goes to 7000+rpm (aim to 12,5 AFR there).

Dan

I got rid of all the knocks. Now I am trying to smooth out the air fuel ratio. If it A/R at 11.50 do I add fuel or reduce fuel??

reduce. Looked at the updated kal and WOT fuel looks worse.

Pull 8-9% under 4000-5000 and then go back to the fuel maps you had previously after 5k.

You can use the "estimated fuel change" chart to give you a good idea of what needs to be done fuel wise in these places, but by no means do i consider the recommend values to be exact.

keto06 wrote:reduce. Looked at the updated kal and WOT fuel looks worse.

Pull 8-9% under 4000-5000 and then go back to the fuel maps you had previously after 5k.

You can use the "estimated fuel change" chart to give you a good idea of what needs to be done fuel wise in these places, but by no means do i consider the recommend values to be exact.

Yeah i figure I did it wrong. I was adding fuel. Going to change it now. Thanks