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Afm fuel table
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:43 pm
by nunoctr
Hi hondata
Sorry for the question, but what is function of the "afm fuel table" on the afm cals.
I can't see any help file on this.
Thanks in advance
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:49 pm
by Hondata
AFM flow converts the AFM voltage into airflow in mass/time units.
http://www.hondata.com/help/flashpro/tu ... s_flow.htm
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 5:12 pm
by nunoctr
Thanks for the fast reply, i know that table and i always tuned my fuel from there.
My question is about the new table "Afm fuel" that have air mass and injector (ms)
Calibration (advanced) - fuel - afm fuel
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:22 am
by Hondata
This table?

It converts the cylinder air mass to injector duration which gives a stoichiometric air/fuel ratio.
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:28 pm
by nunoctr
Yes hondata, that's the table.
When and why we should change the values? Can't you do some help file on this.
I am One of the few fans of afm tuning...
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 8:47 am
by Hondata
For stock injectors you should not change the table. It only really needs to altered with larger injectors and forced induction.
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 9:24 am
by nunoctr
thanks
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:31 am
by R-12914
Hi Hondata,
A colleague and I have the problem, that the idle falls down to ~500 rpms if we change gear or press the clutch (only with AFM or Hybrid cals!)
The technical data from both cars are the following:
1. Honda Civic TypeR FN2
2. Rotrex supercharged @10 PSI (forced induction)
3. RC 750cc injectors
4. Exedy Stage 1 Clutch
I have attached a calibration and a datalog of the problem.
Can we fixing the problem if we increase the afm fuel tables?
If yes, how it works, what should we do and what is to be considered??
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:25 am
by Hondata
It is fuel tuning. The tables seem very rich at low load and the AF is going very rich. Part of the problem is the dead times are too low. Also, why is the cam angle zeroed?
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:31 am
by R-12914
It is not a finished map but the problem is also present on a final map.
How can i fix the problem?
How can i make the dead times higher?
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:00 pm
by R-12914
My tuner writes, that changes in this table has no effect in hybrid cals?
Also this tables has no effekt in hybrid cals?:
http://www.hondata.com/flashpro_forced_ ... h_afm.html
Why not?
A hybrid cal is is nothing more than a AFM cal with MAP fuel tables!?
My tuner writes both things has no effect on speed density based fueling (hybrid cal).
Is this right or imbecility?
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:36 pm
by Hondata
Assuming you mean the AFM flow and fuel tables then yes, they are not used with speed density.
Why not? Because speed density uses manifold pressure and engine speed for fuel lookup.
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:03 am
by R-12914
If we use a Hybrid Cal with MAP fuel tables with the option "Use speed/density (MAP) fuel tables" and the addon "Minimum pressure for speed/denity" with corresponding pressure like this:
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Then it is so?:
If we enter a pressure in the field, then we can use AFM (AFM flow and AFM fuel tables) like a normal AFM Calibration, if we are below this pressure (entered in the field)?!
If we are above the pressure (entered in the field), than the ECU switch to MAP fuel tables, so AFM flow and AFM fuel have no longer a influence!?
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:02 pm
by R-12914
Hondata?
Re: Afm fuel table
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:53 am
by Hondata
I'm not sure what you are getting at.