A/F Issues when going into idle
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:50 am
My issue is that I am getting some strange A/F readings just after going into neutral. From in the car, I just notice it going down to 850 RPM then jumping up to 1000 or so RPM, then back down to 850 RPM. It seems to be more pronounced when downshifting, then going into neutral.
Looking at the logs I can see that as soon as I let go of the throttle (while in gear), it changes to fuel status 4 (open loop - driving conditions), with the AF at 29.4. As soon as I put it into neutral, the fuel status changes to 1 (open loop - sensor warming up), the AF stays at 29.4. That looks fine, but what seems strange is that at the same time it changes to fuel status 1, it adds 3 - 5% fuel trim. A second or so later (while in fuel status 1) the AF will slowly get richer. After this the fuel status will change to 2 (closed loop); the fuel trim will shoot way up, (sometimes as high as 15%; and the AF will begin to drop. As a result of adding so much trim, the AF will get very rich for a few seconds. Eventually it will balance out and the AF will be in the 14.7 (+/- .1) range with the trim at 0 (+/- 1).
I can't see this as being an issue of tuning the fuel, because at the same rpm/MAP this issue is happening at, it runs fine (AF normal, fuel trim normal) when it idles for a few seconds. I could be wrong, but I have tried adding/subtracting fuel. All that does is make it so fuel trim will have be applied while idling.
I can't tell if this issue is coming from the sensor itself or my calibration. I'm also not sure when this started happening, possibly it has always been there since I reflashed it. I do know, however, that using an AFM calibration does not produce this issue.
p.s. Sorry for the long write up, but I wanted to be as descriptive as possible. The attached datalog should tell the whole story.
Looking at the logs I can see that as soon as I let go of the throttle (while in gear), it changes to fuel status 4 (open loop - driving conditions), with the AF at 29.4. As soon as I put it into neutral, the fuel status changes to 1 (open loop - sensor warming up), the AF stays at 29.4. That looks fine, but what seems strange is that at the same time it changes to fuel status 1, it adds 3 - 5% fuel trim. A second or so later (while in fuel status 1) the AF will slowly get richer. After this the fuel status will change to 2 (closed loop); the fuel trim will shoot way up, (sometimes as high as 15%; and the AF will begin to drop. As a result of adding so much trim, the AF will get very rich for a few seconds. Eventually it will balance out and the AF will be in the 14.7 (+/- .1) range with the trim at 0 (+/- 1).
I can't see this as being an issue of tuning the fuel, because at the same rpm/MAP this issue is happening at, it runs fine (AF normal, fuel trim normal) when it idles for a few seconds. I could be wrong, but I have tried adding/subtracting fuel. All that does is make it so fuel trim will have be applied while idling.
I can't tell if this issue is coming from the sensor itself or my calibration. I'm also not sure when this started happening, possibly it has always been there since I reflashed it. I do know, however, that using an AFM calibration does not produce this issue.
p.s. Sorry for the long write up, but I wanted to be as descriptive as possible. The attached datalog should tell the whole story.