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P08J +S300J with Innovate LM2 Wideband Meter Kits

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:56 pm
by terenceng
Dear Pros,

I would like to output the innovate wideband sensor data to my P08J+S300J, may i know what should i do in the first step?

To what i know, in-order to make this work with my P08J+S300J,

Software Section
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- I have go to the menu at the top in Smanager
- Select "Options"
- Select "Settings"
- Select tap under "Units"
- Under "Lambda Unit", select "Air Fuel Ratio" radio box.
- Click on button "OK" to close the window.
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- Then go to the "Parameters"
- Select "Close Loop"
- Un-tick "Close Loop operation" when tuning
- Under "Wideband lambda", select the Wideband input source (Depend which wire/pin that we are going to use to input the wideband sensor signal)
- No required to change the Voltage offet value
- For 0.00 voltage, put value 7.35
- For 5.00 voltage, put value 22.39.
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It is correct?

Hardware Section
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Screen below is the innovate wires assignments, in this case, i will use pair 2 (Brown White+ and Dark Green-), i will connect the BrownWhite to the 1 of the 4pin, and the DarkGreen to any ground, my idea izzit correct?
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Which pin is good to use for Hondata ECU?
to what i know, there are 4 pin availaible for analog input.
1. D10 ELD (My car is year 98 OB2A B16A using converter harness, what are required need to be done if using D10 ELD?)

2. D12 EGRL/Analog Input 1 (My ECU not a US version but a JAPAN version ECU, according to hondata, C42 must contain a 0.1uF capacitor in US version OBD1 ECU for this input to work correctly, but for my Japan ECU? what are required to be done?)

3. D4 O2 (My car is year 98 OB2A B16A using converter harness, what are required need to be done if using D10 ELD?)

4. B6 AN2/Analog Input 2 (According to hondata, R2 and R3 in US version OBD1 ECU must be removed for this input to work correctly, but for my Japan P08J ECU? what are required to be done?)

My idea is to use Pin B6, I will connect (tap or single connection??) the Innovate wideband meter wire Brown&White to ECU OBD1 Pin B6, and tap the Innovate wideband meter wire DarkGreen to OBD1 ECU PIN A26, correct me if i'm wrong.Image

My appreciation for any helps, thank you thank you!!!

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:15 pm
by fly_n
If u still have the LC-1 set at its stock configuration & u have the second analog output(brown wire) from the wideband controller attached to the input on the ecu u choose, then yes,those are the volt>>>afr values u will use.

If u want to determine the voltage offset,then just go into the LC-1 config menu & flatline the output to the second analog output to about 2.5V & u can then compare directly with what it reads in your datalogs,the difference will be your offset.

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:05 am
by terenceng
fly_n wrote:If u still have the LC-1 set at its stock configuration & u have the second analog output(brown wire) from the wideband controller attached to the input on the ecu u choose, then yes,those are the volt>>>afr values u will use.

If u want to determine the voltage offset,then just go into the LC-1 config menu & flatline the output to the second analog output to about 2.5V & u can then compare directly with what it reads in your datalogs,the difference will be your offset.
Thank you for your reply!

I'm using innovate LM-2(BrownWhite Wire) which i think slightly different if compare with LC-1 (Brown Wire). I will follow LM-2 default voltage (7.35 for voltage 0 and 22.39 for voltage 5) for the settings in Smanager..

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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:17 am
by fly_n
LC-1 & LM-2 look exactly the same to the S300,the only difference being the LM-2 has the fancy controller unit,which u can obtain info from & interface to other devices,but since your running an S300 & Smanager,sell your LM-2,get a little netbook for a coupla hundred dollars & your LM-2 is now redundant.

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:43 am
by terenceng
fly_n wrote:LC-1 & LM-2 look exactly the same to the S300,the only difference being the LM-2 has the fancy controller unit,which u can obtain info from & interface to other devices,but since your running an S300 & Smanager,sell your LM-2,get a little netbook for a coupla hundred dollars & your LM-2 is now redundant.
Thank you for your reply!

LOL, if i sell my LM-2 then i have to buy a new LC-1 for air/fuel ratio reading purpose?

I wont buy a netbook since my car already carputer installed..
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:10 am
by fly_n
For Gods sake!!!

U already have a PC onboard running sManager,why on earth do u need an LM-2??? Are u monitoring all your tyre pressures & suspension travel or something?

Your poor little 4-cylinder trying to move all that weight u have in the car.

With the coupla hundred dollars u save by selling the LM-2 & just throwing an LC-1 in,u could spend a whole day at the track trying to push some decent lap times out of that loaded down little 4 of yours.

U must be building a show car or something or like gadgets,which i have nothing against,but if u want performance, less weight = cheap, reliable horsepower.