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EFICU wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 1:46 am Yeah it looks pretty good. It actually impacted the MAF scale for part throttle more than WOT, but that's fine. I made some MAF scaling adjustments for that, and some minor WOT fueling. No knock still which is great. Take this one for a drive when you can and we'll see how it looks.

Are you planning on doing a DP any time soon, or is this going to be your setup for the long term?

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Ok, sounds good. I’ll upload this later today and take it for a spin. No exhaust, this should be it for the foreseeable future. Thanks!

Here's the newest datalog. It felt like it had a little more pep midrange.

Yeah it looks good. We had a few knock, but nothing we can't address. WOT fuel was dead on, I did make another adjustment to the MAF scale. We'll see how it looks on the next one.

Speaking of the next one, since you plan to keep this setup for a while, do you want to do a couple revisions to get some cam angle data to try to get some more power? If you're happy with the power we don't have to worry about. But there might be some cam angle adjustments we can make, but I would need some data to make those decisions. We would basically want to make about five revisions where we lock it on one cam angle at a time and have you make some third gear WOT pulls on them so we can get the data. Then we can use that data to blend out of the cam angle map based on that. You wouldn't have to make 20 minute datalogs, all we would need is a clean third gear WOT pull.

Let me know how you want to proceed, then we'll go from there.

I am down to do that. Let me know what the next step will be.

Okay sounds good. Then for these, we only need maybe ten minute datalogs including the clean third gear WOT pull like you've been doing. If you want, you can do the twenty minute ones, but something around ten minutes is fine and saves you some time. This first one will be the 0* cam angle with vtec at 4500. Don't be surprised if this one feels sluggish, the 0 cam is the least power except near redline. So the part throttle and midrange will be less than exciting, but don't stress, it's only one revisions on the 0* cam angle and then we move onto the 15. So take this one for a spin, and we'll go from there. As I mentioned, there will be maybe five revisions moving forward where we lock on one angle to build some data, then we will get back a blended file like you were on before, but hopefully with a more custom cam angle map for your car. Not to mention a better overall tune since we are working on all the nooks and crannies now too.

Here's the 0 cam datalog. You weren't kidding about feeling sluggish, haha.

Yeah that 0 cam sucks, it's just a good base for moving forward and we might use it right around 6500-7500 in the final product. We'll see as we go. But yeah, it's sluggish. I used to not warn guys until I heard enough feedback, now I warn you guys how sluggish it is so I don't get fired on the first revisions. Haha.

This one will be better, now the 15* cam angle with vtec still at 4500. Same datalog, ten minutes or so with the clean WOT pull. By the way, we only had one knock on that one because I put a couple degrees in it at the top end to see if it liked it, but it didn't. So I pulled that back out because of the knock.

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but here's the 15 degree datalog. Definitely better than the 0, haha.

Yeah the 0 cam sucks, haha. That one looked good, we will now move to the 30* cam angle with vtec at 5500 now. You can take this one for another short datalog, our main goal if the clean third gear WOT pull again.

This one felt a little better in the low-mid to midrange. It showed a couple knock at end of the 3rd gear pull on decel I think.

Yeah it looks good. We had a little bit of a lean area right at vtec and the knock happened right there, so I am going to leave the ignition alone to see how it looks on this one. The knock happened under WOT, not on decel, so that's good. But yeah, if it knocks again in your next datalog I will address the ignition there, and subsequent datalogs as we go.

Here is the next one, still the 30* cam angle with vtec now at 4000. Take this one for another datalog, all we really need is the third gear WOT pull, so it can be another short datalog if you want.

This one felt good. Different with the VTEC set at 4k, ha. Temps have been definitely colder the past couple of days.

Yeah it looks good. I've gone ahead and blended out the cam angle map, your setup won't utilize the 40* cam angle with the stock DP. So take this one for a spin when you can and see what you think. The cam will rotate accordingly now based on the data. Also, vtec looks happiest at 4600, but we'll see how it looks in this next datalog. We can always try moving it up or down a bit based on your feel in the car. The data can show one thing, but how it feels in the car to you is all that matters. But try this one and see what you think.

Go back to twenty minute or so datalogs, and make at least one clean third gear WOT pull. But feel free to have some fun with it if you like, it's plenty safe to have fun with.

I was finally able to drive and do a decent length datalog. It felt good overall, but it felt a little off above 4k in the WOT pull. I saw the lone knock just past 5k.

Yeah I think I see what you mean. I ran you on the higher end of the 30* cam for vtec and I think that might be part of the falloff, that and it was a touch rich. When I overlay this pull vs your previous best Rev04, you can see where the midrange was off a little but it came on strong up top. Granted Virtual Dyno has to be taken with a grain of salt, it seems to show what you're feeling. I made some cam angle changes to resemble more of the Rev04 midrange and a little bit less up top, and I pulled some fuel. Take this one for a spin and see how it feels. If you can, make a few third gear pulls so we can run them through Virtual Dyno to get some average data if you want.