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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:08 am
by cranny
buddy that datalog is even more useless , lol. you didnt even get wide open throttle till over 6 rpm. get the car at 2k rpm in 3rd. floor the dam thing , lol. to the floor. dont let off till 8200.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:49 pm
by 02typesnick
here is that datalog but i fixed the problem i edited the load index for column 10 and lowered it down a little bit but i still am going to run a datalog tomorrow i think it may need to be leaned out a little bit im not sure
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:31 pm
by cranny
try this
your still rolling on the throttle buddy , thats no good. floor it instantly and hold it. not gradually floor it.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:05 pm
by 02typesnick
yeah i know check out this kal at column #10 and 9 on the edit load index
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:34 am
by cranny
i see you changed it yes but. if there is a problem with the car causing this , that wont fix it buddy. like ive said ive never seen this before personally. ask spunkster or hondata about this.
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:49 am
by 02typesnick
here is the datalog for that map with the load index changed it runs almost to rich now but its a lot better than what it was i will run the map you made later today
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:35 am
by fonz600
You didn't really need to change it anyway as the Kpro would take the average of the 2 values from 9 and 10 if u r between columns.
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:00 am
by 02typesnick
well it wouldnt even change into column 10 to put the AFs where they needed to be if i just load the regular map in then the AFs are like 14 with the load index changed the air fuels are almost to rich but its a lot safer than 14 consistently
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:14 am
by fonz600
You should be making changes to 8,9,10 anyway mate to make a good smooth map.
If your load is reading between columns 9 and 10 it'll take the average of those columns. You should try adding fuel to column 10 as well and see if it changes things.
Your running mega rich in bits with your own map. Try Cranny's as I'm sure he would've left those loads the same but still tweaked column 10 anyway.
Also make sure you don't have any vacuum leaks around the manifold area preventing you reaching the right MAP.
Also to touch on my first post my MAP with just ignition on is around 0 which explains why you are down on MAP at WOT as your already starting -0.9 down. This could be with where you are regarding sea level I think as your -0.9 is your atmospheric pressure. Not 100% but I think thats right.
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:38 am
by 02typesnick
ok i will give it a try but my elevation is 865 feet above sea level but yeah ill use cranny's map after school im in class right now.
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:25 am
by fonz600
Cause you are above sea level your MAP will be lower and how cold the weather is plays a part on that too.
Honestly I wouldn't worry your not hitting the 10th column as it's only there to make up differences in MAP readings. As long as your fuel, ignition and cams are correct for your car in the 9th column it'll still make as much power as if your car was going into the 10th column mapped the same way but at sea level.
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:45 am
by 02typesnick
i knew since im higher up in elevation than where the map was dyno tuned at and with the colder air was going to be an issue so im kinda woundering if im going to have to go through this again once it warms up but like i said ill use the map cranny made to see where the car is running at
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:33 am
by fonz600
Spending time on the temp compensation tables should help with that mate.