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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:19 am
by tiger
eXceed wrote:When changing any setting it performs the change on every table... Where has the cam angles checkbox gone?
In the Tables window, there are two sections. The actual tables and the graph (2D or 3D). When this happened to me, I found out you need to increase the size of the actual tables section. To do this, take your mouse and move it over the bar that separates the two sections. It will turn into a two-arrow pointer. Then just slide it to the right until your drop box and check box appears again in the tables section.
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:55 am
by eXceed
tiger wrote:eXceed wrote:When changing any setting it performs the change on every table... Where has the cam angles checkbox gone?
In the Tables window, there are two sections. The actual tables and the graph (2D or 3D). When this happened to me, I found out you need to increase the size of the actual tables section. To do this, take your mouse and move it over the bar that separates the two sections. It will turn into a two-arrow pointer. Then just slide it to the right until your drop box and check box appears again in the tables section.
Thanks for posting I found this out about 5 mins after i left the house lool. Loving the beta at the moment!
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:15 am
by tiger
eXceed wrote:tiger wrote:eXceed wrote:When changing any setting it performs the change on every table... Where has the cam angles checkbox gone?
In the Tables window, there are two sections. The actual tables and the graph (2D or 3D). When this happened to me, I found out you need to increase the size of the actual tables section. To do this, take your mouse and move it over the bar that separates the two sections. It will turn into a two-arrow pointer. Then just slide it to the right until your drop box and check box appears again in the tables section.
Thanks for posting I found this out about 5 mins after i left the house lool. Loving the beta at the moment!
No problem, and the beta definitely has some cool additions.
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:06 am
by Hondata
We've updated the beta to fix the problems which have been found:
V1.4.4 Changes:
• Changed table window so that the toolbar wraps around.
• Fixed target lambda tables not being saved.
• Fixed stock knock parameter not being saved.
Thanks for your help.
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:37 pm
by tiger
Hondata wrote:We've updated the beta to fix the problems which have been found:
V1.4.4 Changes:
• Changed table window so that the toolbar wraps around.
• Fixed target lambda tables not being saved.
• Fixed stock knock parameter not being saved.
Thanks for your help.
Indeed. Thank you!
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:48 pm
by tiger
For the closed loop lambda control:
To my understanding, the ECU should be obtaining the target A/F ratio by interpolating low load and high load values from the table. And it does not allow the target A/F go beyond the set limit.
If that is how it is supposed to work then I think there may be an issue as the A/F command now becomes what you set the limit to be. For example, I set the closed loop lambda limit to 15.50. I then saved and uploaded the kal. When idling the A/F cmd is 14.59 which makes sense because it's idling. As soon as I start driving my A/F cmd becomes the set limit which is 15.50. Just to make sure, I set the limit to 14.8 and that became the new A/F cmd.
Knock sensitivity tables
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:22 pm
by roland
Testing version 1.4.4.0
While comparing my knock sensitivity high and low speed tables, I noticed that the RPM values for each row on the high speed table were the same as the RPM values on the low speed.
Is this a display bug or some other issue?
Note that in the attached calibration, I have a custom defined the RPM value index for both high and low speed tables. My custom index is properly applied to all the other knock related tables.
P.S. Is it possible to add a gear condition to the nitrous arming input?
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:12 am
by Hondata
That looks like a problem - the knock sensitivity and knock retard high speed tables are using the low speed rpm index. Will fix this Monday.
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:05 pm
by roland
Hondata wrote:That looks like a problem - the knock sensitivity and knock retard high speed tables are using the low speed rpm index. Will fix this Monday.
Thank you :)
I have one more issue to you can add to the list - VTEC stopped functioning in my car (2005 RSX Type S) after uploading the tune I built in the K-Manager beta.
I have my lower boundary set at 3300 RPM and the upper boundary at 4500 RPM. The attached datalog shows a WOT pull in 3rd gear from ~2000 to ~6000 RPM. VTP is off the whole time and it was obvious from the lack of torque and engine tone that the high speed lobes did not engage.
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:25 pm
by Hondata
Yes, that appears to be a problem too. Very strange as I made no changes to VTEC for this release. Should be fixed Monday as well.
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:20 pm
by kidinatype_S
I have tried to edit the WOT cat. protection tables since I am not using a cat., and the values do not change, its this correct?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:06 pm
by Hondata
You'll have to be more specific - what values in what table are you changing, and when do they not change?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:11 pm
by kidinatype_S
In the main Table, drop down, went to WOT comp(cat protection) low, and high speed. I am unable to edit these tables. Like if I select all, and hit control D nothing changes? I want to know since I am not using a cat. Also the Same goes for the normal WOT comp tables, but I do not want to edit those.
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:23 pm
by Hondata
The stock ECU does not engage VTEC when the target AF is leaner than 15.0:1. Closed loop while running on the high speed cam is not a common occurrence so I've removed this check.
We've released a new beta which fixes the knock retard and knock sensitivity high speed rpm indexes as well as the VTEC not engaging problem.
I can not find any problems editing the WOT compensation tables - screen-shots would be the next step.
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:01 pm
by kidinatype_S
ok, well I will see if I can grab a screen shot for you. Now with the 1.4.5 update all my tables show only low speed index! Also the 2d 3d viewer window now shows 0 rpm and it never has before. Hope I explained that last part well.
BTW: I am using windows XP, and had no problem engaging v-tec with the previous 1.4.4 beta