KPro V1 Boost Control

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IdaSol
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KPro V1 Boost Control

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Hello, I can't seem to find anything on the capabilities of the KPro Version 1 board. Does KProV1 support an electronic boost control solenoid? I have one installed in my vehicle, but I cannot get it to even buzz. (I have tried two BCS from MAC. One completely brand new; one used.)

Currently I have B21 going to one wire, and the other going to +12v. When I have Boost Control enabled nothing happens. I have attempted both normally open and normally closed settings at varying fixed duty cycle settings. I have also verified continuity and voltage on the wires.
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Re: KPro V1 Boost Control

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All K-Pro's have this capability.

Are you seeing a duty cycle listed in datalogs?
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Re: KPro V1 Boost Control

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I am seeing the duty cycle in the log. (I don't have a log to upload however, as this was a few days ago and I didn't save them.)

The duty cycle in the log is, depending on the setting, a quick spike right after the solenoid activation value that quickly settles (within a split second) to what I have set for my fixed duty cycle.

However, I cannot hear or feel the solenoid doing anything. Also, the boost gauge/MAP values don't reflect an increase that seems to correlate with the duty cycle. For instance when using the following settings for fixed duty cycles I receive these MAP readings:

DC - MAP (PSI)
10 = 9.8
12 = 10.4
14 = 10
16 = 10.2
18 = 10
20 = 9.8
...
50 = 9.9
100 = 10.3

My base boost level was 7psi, so the solenoid only appears to be increasing output to 9-10psi. I've also checked for boost leaks, and found nothing.

The solenoid is receiving voltage (+9v when measured with a DMM, key on/engine off, activation setting to -30in/hg, 100% duty cycle) but it doesn't appear to be doing anything, which is strange since I've attempted to use two different solenoids.

Is there a troubleshooting procedure or series of steps that can be taken to help isolate the problem and remediate the issue? I will post a calibration on my follow up post.
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Re: KPro V1 Boost Control

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Here is my calibration file. Hopefully I haven't missed anything. Thanks for looking.

The solenoid is plumbed like this:

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The actual solenoid looks like this: (but we have tried the 3-port version as well)

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That calibration does not have boost control enabled. I suspect that is why it is not activating.
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Re: KPro V1 Boost Control

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Its disabled because it's not working. That's it. I can check the checkbox and reupload?

I more or less posted the calibration because I assumed I had another parameter incorrect. Enabling Boost Control with the main checkbox, and then toggling between normally on and normally off with varying fixed duty cycles doesn't have the expected outcome.

Am I missing something? Is there a way to test the PCS output, or troubleshoot my settings/solenoid?
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Re: KPro V1 Boost Control

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connect your solenoid wires the neg and pos terminals of a battery and see if it clicks as you tap them to the terminals.
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Re: KPro V1 Boost Control

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I've had the ECU sent in for an upgrade to V4 assuming that it was V1 before your first reply.

We attempted that with the used 3-port and it clicked once, and then seemed to have let the magic smoke out. We aren't sure if it was the cause, so we upgraded to the new 4-port. I really don't want to perform the same tesf, as we only tapped the 3-port once very quickly before it became unresponsive.

Is there a way to have Hondata enable and cycle the PCS output? I attempted to do this with the boost control tab, by setting my solenoid activation point to -30in/hg and setting duty cycle to 50-100%. I attempted this with the vehicle off/key on and the engine running.
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Re: KPro V1 Boost Control

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connecting those 2 wires will not damaged the solenoid as that is what is designed to do.

You will have to see if it is showing a duty cycle in the datalog when you try those settings.
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Re: KPro V1 Boost Control

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I just tested the solenoid, and it works.

What should I do to test the PCS output/boost control?
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Yes and make sure all parameters are being met.
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Re: KPro V1 Boost Control

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What are the settings I should use to test for a starting point?
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