Solid Cell in UKDM K20A2 Swapped in EDM 97 EK3 Kpro3

K-Series Programmable ECU installation questions / support issues
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Hoffy
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Solid Cell in UKDM K20A2 Swapped in EDM 97 EK3 Kpro3

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Hi Guys,

My Info:
- serial number of your K-Pro
K-PRo III R17 10472
- ECU part number (starts with 37820) and serial number (the number under the part number)
37820-PRA-E12
- KManager version (not 'the latest')
3.1.2
- the calibration (as an attachment)
attached
- a datalog of a problem (as an attachment)
cant yet
- what sort of vehicle you have
1997 EDM EK3
- anything about the car which has been modified from stock which may affect the ECU (don't include what sort of rims you have nor stereo etc).
Clifford G5 MK2 Concept 650
Wireworx CM3 harness
Has a immobilizer (chip in key and transponderbox under the steerig colum)
- a specific description of the problem
Car wont swing,Solid cell and kmanager wont see switch on unless I ground the ground wire from the analog inputs.
-When and where you got the K-Pro
February 2012 from CPL UK

I just swapped a UKDM K20A2 in my EDM EK3.
wired everything up and grounded it also.
Head
Block
Gearbox
Intakemanifold
I get a solid cell,
car wont swing( just a click sound from the enginebay fusebox thats now under the dash),
Kpro only shows the switch on if i ground the ground wire from the analog inputs.

Hope you guys can help me,

Mitch
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Re: Solid Cell in UKDM K20A2 Swapped in EDM 97 EK3 Kpro3

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Stop immediatly. If you have to ground the analog inputs for it to start the car you have a major wiring problem, more specifically with the grounds. Check all your grounds and the wiring harness, correct the fault and then it should work correctly. DO NOT HOOK UP A GROUND TO THE ANOLOG INPUT TO TRY TO START IT OR YOU WILL DAMAGE THE K-PRO AND ECU.
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Re: Solid Cell in UKDM K20A2 Swapped in EDM 97 EK3 Kpro3

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Spunkster wrote:Stop immediatly. If you have to ground the analog inputs for it to start the car you have a major wiring problem, more specifically with the grounds. Check all your grounds and the wiring harness, correct the fault and then it should work correctly. DO NOT HOOK UP A GROUND TO THE ANOLOG INPUT TO TRY TO START IT OR YOU WILL DAMAGE THE K-PRO AND ECU.
Hey Spunkster,

Thanks for the warning.
I started with 5 separate grounds cause I've read that grounding improperly can damage the ecu/kpro.
Block
Head
Intake manifold
And chassis points near Left and right headlights

The harness is grounded on the head also

All from a distributor-block on the battery.
Ill remove the dash and recheck all the ground points again in 6 hours.

Is there also a way to check if my K-Pro is still functional?
Don't want to take the risk and plug it into some1 else his car.
Thanks in advance,

Mitch
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Re: Solid Cell in UKDM K20A2 Swapped in EDM 97 EK3 Kpro3

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The only way to test is in a known good vehicle.
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Re: Solid Cell in UKDM K20A2 Swapped in EDM 97 EK3 Kpro3

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Spunkster wrote:The only way to test is in a known good vehicle.
Yep thought so to. Ill send the ecu to CPL for diagnostics.
Hope to hear within 1 week what I could have done wrong,

Mitch
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Re: Solid Cell in UKDM K20A2 Swapped in EDM 97 EK3 Kpro3

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Hey Guys,

Good news. It wasn't my Kpro. load of my wallet XD.
It was a safety switch crap which was faulty.
Image

this:
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Took my dash apart 3-4 times..but it runs!
Only thing i had was a bad functioning iacv couldnt get it to work with kpro.
Idle keept surging up and down. So blocked it off and adjusted with the idle screw.

I also get a checkengine after 2 mins of driving. cannot see the fault code in K-pro.
Ill jumper it tonight check it out.

Mitch
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Re: Solid Cell in UKDM K20A2 Swapped in EDM 97 EK3 Kpro3

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Hoffy wrote:
I also get a checkengine after 2 mins of driving. cannot see the fault code in K-pro.
Ill jumper it tonight check it out.

Mitch
Update:
The above cell is worked around by this
Seems the EURO ECUs have a totally different O2 wiring..

Topic can be closed,

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