CPR wiring help!!!

[dlc18]

All 4 black/white wires into one pin on the distributor side connecting with the stock black/yellow wire "big" pin on ECU side of the connector. Removed blue wire from "big" pin on distributor side and pinned in the purple wire from the CPR to connect to the blue "big" pin on the ECU side of the connector. The 4 or 5 black wires with the ring connector is bolted to the thermostat housing in the same place as the stock wire harness ground. I checked all 4 connectors for the coils and the grounds are good and power is there.

[Spunkster]

Perhaps you have disconnected something internal to the distributor that is causing the problem. Try returning it to stock function using the stock distributor components. If that works, then try converting to the CPR but do not remove anything from the distributor.

[dlc18]

Do you mean for me to unwire the CPR completely, take the coils out and put the spark plugs back on, or just put the distributor back together and try it? Do you want me to wire in the factory black/yellow and blue wires from the distributor with the CPR wiring still connected?

[Spunkster]

go back to running with the distributor and regular plug wires for testing purposes.

[dlc18]

And what am I looking for once it is back together and running again just like it was before I tried to install the CPR? By the time I get done putting it back to stock, you will be gone for the day. You are not helping me as far as diagnosing this thing. What are the chances I have a bad CPR box? How do I test that? What am I looking for out of the ALTC circuit? What does the SYNC do? There has to be something you are not telling me....... Don't mean to bite your head off, but I'm a little frustrated here to say the least. I have been told by my tuner and by this forum to hook this thing up several different ways. Nothing has worked and now I am supposed to put it back to stock? To do what? Start all over with the same connections in the same place? I will do it, but like I said, I don't see the point.

[Spunkster]

There is no "test" you can do to the CPR box. We are trying to go back and see if there is some other issue that has occured while installing the unit. Since you have also disassembled the distributor there is a chance that something has happened there. So it would be best to go back to a running configuration and do one thing at a time instead of all at once. Unfortunately there is not a magic wand for troubleshooting.

[Spunkster]

http://www.hondata.com/help/cpr/troubleshooting.htm

After reviewing your photos I do not think you have this wired correctly

http://www.hondata.com/help/cpr/connector_wiring.htm

http://www.hondata.com/help/smanager/ecuconnectors.htm

The White/Brown wire should be going to A16 on the OBD1 plug

The Orange wire should be going to to Pin A21/A22 (same thing) on the OBD1 plug

Your picture has the white/brown wire in the A21 spot andthe orange wire in the A22 spot

[dlc18]

Like I said before, the white/brown wire in pin A22 was stuck and not connected to anything. I had it correct. The white/brown wire was connected to a black wire that I just used for a new pin and was in A16 and the orange wire was in A21. You then told me to take the wire out of A22 and I did so.

Anyways, got the car back to stock and it runs just fine. I did run into a problem at first and it was that the IACV Blk/Blu wire came out of my OBDII connector some how and the car would not stay running and I would get a fault for the IACV in Smanager. Put the pin back in place, and it runs perfect with no codes. Where do we go from here?

[dlc18]

Sorry, the orange wire was in A22 and you told me to take the wire out of A21 which was the white/brown wire, but again was not connected to anything at the time.

[Spunkster]

Now reinstall the CPR wiring and CPR but to do not remove anything from the distributor and see if it works properly.

[dlc18]

Ok, and I am still taking the "big" pins (blk/yel & blu wires) from the distributor completely out and replacing them with the blk/wht & purple wires from the CPR? I will not get to it until tonight, so if you have any other suggestions, please let me know.

[Spunkster]

Yes you will have to do that, but do not remove anything from the distributor.

[dlc18]

O.K. did everything you told me to do. Distributor is completely stock except for spark plug wires and the power and TACH wires I took out. STILL no start and no SYNC light.

***Here is what is weird***Looking at my OBDII connector A, ALTC is the White/Green wire at pin A19. I follow that down through the OBDII-OBDII connector and to my ECU and that wire is and has always been pinned at A14 of the OBDI. I think I stated before that I never had to remove a wire from pin A16. A16 has always been empty. I ohmmed that wire (A14) to the alternator and I get continuity. So I tried to put the White/Brown SYNC wire in pin A14, and still get no start, no SYNC light. I ohmmed the ICM wire from the ECU to the distributor, and get continuity. I have put the orange wire from the CPR into pin A22 and A21. Same results.

I have pignuts for the OBDI ECU and it says pin A14 is "empty" and A16 is ALTC. Mine is connected so that A14 is ALTC and A16 is empty. I don't know why, but like I said I put it back to stock like you told me and it started and ran.

[Spunkster]

Please post your phone number so I can call you ASAP, you can send it via PM if you want to keep it private, but I do need to talk to you about this as I believe I hve found the issue.

I will be leaving for the weekend but if you can give me your phone number I will call you.

[dlc18]

It tests good. I checked a16 on the board from the bottom of the board to the CPR connector with it plugged into the CPR box. Had 0.1 ohms. I did notice this; http://www.hondata.com/techvtecrelaydiagram.html does this mean that the PR4 does not have ALTC output? I traced pin A16 circuit on the board and it looks like it is going to where a transistor should be. Q37 on the board. Is that correct?