Timing and afr n/a

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allm0t0rGSR
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Timing and afr n/a

Post by allm0t0rGSR »

i have a fully built gsr top and bottom..

head is ported and polish
stage 2 brian crower cams 11.9mm lift
11.7 high compression
lighten crank 89mm
eagle ls rods
blox intake manifold
4-1 type r replica headers and full pipping
p72w/s300

do i have to trust base on the knock sensor if im tunning on the street?
because evererytime i shift from gear to gear
i have knock retard like -4 degree,
i kept retarding but it still showing a knock reatard....

what is the highest or best ign timing for high compression engine at wot and partthrottle?
because mine is kind a low. theres no knock retard on 22 degree from 5000rpm to redline ot wot....
and is it nomal to knock the engine from 20% throttle to wot and goes away for 1-2 secs?

i have a datalog but i accidently erase.. but i will do some pull tomorow and post...

can anyone check my calibration if its okey on the ignition is it smooth enough not to make knock retard
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hdragster
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Post by hdragster »

Your car is running ultra rich! And your timing is too advance you need to fix those
allm0t0rGSR
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Post by allm0t0rGSR »

thanks...

can anyone check my datalog, am i running to low on my ignition timing?
do i have to add more ignition timing as the rpm or subtract? because my ignition timing is kind a low...or does a high compression engine run in low ignition timing? plsss help me out...
allm0t0rGSR
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Post by allm0t0rGSR »

anyone.....
esohsee
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Post by esohsee »

I get the quick detonation as well and was wondering if this was common too.

I also look over your stuff real quick and it looks fine to me a lil rich towards the end.
fly_n
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Post by fly_n »

Agree,shes running a little cool up top.

The trick here is, never rely on a stock knock sensor on a stock engine to assess your state of tune.

Since u dont even own a stock P72 motor anymore,then your stock P72 knock board is listening to an entirely different motor,especially if u got forgies in there.

So if u cant rely on it on a stock motor,then what hope have u got?

The timing does look a little laggy,but u obviously realise this,as uve been pulling it from everywhere. Nobody is really gonna advise u on best timing online,nor should u really take their advice if they do,especially on such an individually setup motor.

U really need to get the thing on the dyno &/or at least in the hands of an experienced tuner who has the motor running in their presence & can tell what is actually right/wrong for your motor. If a dyno/tuner is not available,then prob best u park the car & start reading.

U probably spent a few dollars on that motor,dont blow it by cheaping out on the tune in the home stretch.
hdragster
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Post by hdragster »

fly_n wrote:Agree,shes running a little cool up top.

The trick here is, never rely on a stock knock sensor on a stock engine to assess your state of tune.

Since u dont even own a stock P72 motor anymore,then your stock P72 knock board is listening to an entirely different motor,especially if u got forgies in there.

So if u cant rely on it on a stock motor,then what hope have u got?

The timing does look a little laggy,but u obviously realise this,as uve been pulling it from everywhere. Nobody is really gonna advise u on best timing online,nor should u really take their advice if they do,especially on such an individually setup motor.

U really need to get the thing on the dyno &/or at least in the hands of an experienced tuner who has the motor running in their presence & can tell what is actually right/wrong for your motor. If a dyno/tuner is not available,then prob best u park the car & start reading.

U probably spent a few dollars on that motor,dont blow it by cheaping out on the tune in the home stretch.
agree with what he said
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