tuning problems!!

Japhatch · Post by **Japhatch** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:29 pm

not yet..just got the car running again today.. had to hunt down a starter.

anyway, at idle im seeing 12.2 on the PLX, and 14.7 on hondata.

ive tried changeing the volts 0 .2 .3 .4, it doesnt seem to change the number on the PLX.

but ill try a new map, see if that does anything.

FreshDA9 · Post by **FreshDA9** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:57 pm

Japhatch wrote:not yet..just got the car running again today.. had to hunt down a starter.

anyway, at idle im seeing 12.2 on the PLX, and 14.7 on hondata.

ive tried changeing the volts 0 .2 .3 .4, it doesnt seem to change the number on the PLX.

but ill try a new map, see if that does anything.

It shouldnt change the number on the PLX it should change it in the Hondata. Have you checked your wiring?

Japhatch · Post by **Japhatch** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:18 am

yaa, i figured that out lol..i havent really checked the wireing..tho, im not really sure what to look for, a buddy of mine did the wideband install.

FreshDA9 · Post by **FreshDA9** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:58 am

Well i recommend the WB wire to the ELD pin in the ecu harness. Also the analog ground from the wideband box to the ecu ground, the analog ground is the bottom left pin on the white 4 pin connector on the PLX box. disable ELD in Smanager after soldering wb in there, and make sure it says wb is on ELD then change your offsets.

Japhatch · Post by **Japhatch** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:32 am

god.. hope i dont screw anything up lol, i have the ELD disabled now, is it not supposed to be?

right now hondata is on D10 ELD at 0v

Japhatch · Post by **Japhatch** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:18 pm

changed from D10ELD to B6 AN2.. the AF is alot closer to the gauge now..

shadeofgreen · Post by **shadeofgreen** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:09 pm

This is OP, forgot my password and cant log into my account..anyway, i lied it doesnt move the number closer..i looked at the wireing and i have no bloody clue what im looking at.. so ill have to take it to the guy that did the install.

on a better note.. i found some DSM 440's :D

update..car runs alot better now with the 440's, and a new map. the AF numbers are close, also. but ill still get my buddy to have a loot at it..

thanks DA for all your help, much appricated!! :)

FreshDA9 · Post by **FreshDA9** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:20 pm

No problem. Yes if you use the ELD input as your wide band have ELD dissabled in the Hondata. tell your buddy you want ELD soldered to the WB and the analog ground soldered to D21 or 22.

shadeofgreen · Post by **shadeofgreen** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:07 pm

having more problems..awesome, when i floor it at about 3500-4000, the injector pulse wide dies..and the duty cycle goes to 0..i dont knwo what would cause this..i recently installed DSM 440cc injectors, they worked well before, but now, i dont know whats going on. Ill post a log later on.

FreshDA9 · Post by **FreshDA9** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:56 pm

are you running a resistor box with those injectors? did you check the Ohm of the injector because Hondata cant run a certain DSM injector it being some weird 6ohm. my dsm 390 are 3ohm and most 450s should be 3ohm aswell.

shadeofgreen · Post by **shadeofgreen** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:49 am

i didnt check them no. and they are on a resistor box, they are 450 blue tops. ill check em tomorrow. thanks for the advice :)

Post by **Spunkster** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:24 am

http://www.hondata.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=432

shadeofgreen · Post by **shadeofgreen** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:24 am

gaw.. son of a bitch lol.. thanks for pointing that out spunkster.

FreshDA9 · Post by **FreshDA9** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:03 am

I have been running my DSM's for over a year no problems. seen plenty of people running them in Hondata systems no problems. they are not good as RC's in any way but they are cheap and alot of people have them in honda communities.

I cant find the post on Honda Tech anymore spunk that was like 20 pages long of why hondata doesnt support dsm injectors and where you said because of testing 1 injector that wouldnt work because a resistance issue.

turboex
Dont call hondata on this issue. I delt with them along time ago, i talked to doug and he said they were fine. Now just a month back i had a problem wih the chip being bad and the tech guy at hondata told me that it was the dsm injectors and that you cant use them with hondata. I asked to speak to his boss or doug and none of them were around. I hope they fired his ass! He told me i did not know what i was doing and those injectors would never work, even though i had been running them with the same setup for 2 years and never had a problem and back in the day before he worked there doug had told me over the phone that they were fine to use. Dude those injectors will work fine, just make sure your resistance is correct, via resistors or what ever.

Since i couldnt find your post i found this 1 that was rather interesting...

shadeofgreen · Post by **shadeofgreen** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:23 pm

well shit.. ill check the ohms on them..thanks alot DA9 :)