adjust the ignition

ralf1 · Post by **ralf1** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:56 am

hello

i have tuned a EP3 K20 european Civic with turbo.

Now my Problem is, that i cannot adjust the ignition. when i datalog the ignition i have at full boost (11psi) in vtec not enough advanced ingnition.
When i change in the vtec ignition map it and add 5 degrees to the splitting so at the next test drive i have the same ignition.
clear, i upload first the new calibration.
what make i wrong?

regards

Post by **Spunkster** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:13 am

Make sure you are editing the correct cam angle map. There are 6 separae High cam ignition maps.

ralf1 · Post by **ralf1** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:26 pm

i do this

first vtec map ingition

add 5 degrees

when i do this i upload the new map but at the ignition nothing changing??!!

regards

Post by **Spunkster** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:42 pm

You must make sure you are changing the High cam map for the cam angle the engine is running at the time you are seeing the need for a change.

ralf1 · Post by **ralf1** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:13 pm

Spunkster wrote:You must make sure you are changing the High cam map for the cam angle the engine is running at the time you are seeing the need for a change.

i dont understand. i change the ignition at the vtec map. you see at 12 psi for example from 16 to 21. so 5 degrees more.
and when i do a test drive, the ign is real at 17 -19 degree at datalogging.

regards

Post by **Spunkster** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:21 am

Please watch some of the training videos at http://www.hondata.com/techk-protraining.html

There is more than one map for ignition when vtec is engaged. There is one for 0,10, 20, 30, 40 and 50 degrees fo cam angle. If you are not modifying the correct table you will not see a change when the car is running because it is not reading from that table.

cranny · Post by **cranny** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:20 am

sounds to me like you should stick to B series tuning. you shouldnt be tuning other peoples big dollar cars when you dont even know what your doing , im astounded to be quite frank.

spunkster has easily and more than once answered your question , and it seems to go in one ear and out the other. hard to help those who cant be helped.

ralf1 · Post by **ralf1** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:59 am

i have two prblems. first my bad english and second that i tuned only hondas until year 2000.
it is easier unterstand things in the language wich spoken all day.

sorry

regards

cranny · Post by **cranny** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:09 pm

understandable. but why would you take on such a task if you werent sure what your doing is what i dont understand. what if his engine packed it in cause of this know what i mean. specially a turbo car.

ralf1 · Post by **ralf1** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:29 am

Spunkster wrote:Please watch some of the training videos at http://www.hondata.com/techk-protraining.html

There is more than one map for ignition when vtec is engaged. There is one for 0,10, 20, 30, 40 and 50 degrees fo cam angle. If you are not modifying the correct table you will not see a change when the car is running because it is not reading from that table.

thanks for the link and information. problem is away ;-)

@cranny
you make you sorrows about me and my tuning a honda turbo. thanks, but with answer like this what spunkster wrote, is more assisted ;-)

regards

cranny · Post by **cranny** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:47 am

he told you that twice , lol , his first 2 posts. im sorry man no insults intended , just dont wanna see anyone have K series engine soup for a bottom end , haha. you can also make a base ignition map to start with by going to EDIT , create boost tables , click the dot on retard ignition____per lb of boost. put 1 in the blank if its a stock engine , click ok. it will adjust the map for you. than you can tune from there.

ralf1 · Post by **ralf1** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:42 am

i have tuned it now. when i know what i must do, it is easy . thanks for the informations.

regards