Kpro Adapter Harness for 05-06' Type-S problems

archull · Post by **archull** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:19 pm

I have a 06' Acura RSX Type-S which I installed Kpro on several years ago (within 2 weeks after buying the car off the Dealer lot!!!!!)

The problem I am having is the weak link on the harness, the male pin side of the harness that attaches to the factory engine harness. The damn pins are so weak I have broken 2 of them so far. The bind that the harness length causes eventually causes the pins to bend a bit and when they bend a couple of times they snap. I contacted Hondata to try to buy replacement pins to mend the harness myself but they outright refused to sell them to me. Since I am turbo charged and I am running the Hondata Boost control solenoid I installed a high/low boost switch which required me to use the E22 pin out. When doing this you are required to cut the wire to the harness or your brake lights will stay on when the switch is on. So I was able to use this pin for a donor pin to replace the damaged pin. I de-soldered the pin, cleaned everything up, replaced the pin and all was fine until it eventually broke again. I once again contacted Hondata and I was refused the ability to purchase the pins once again. So I was told that I was going to have to buy a new harness but to actually get them to sell me a new one I had to send in my old one so no one could copy their design of the harness. I kinda thought that was a shitty thing to do since I already had bought this harness and its now my property. I wanted to use this harness with a jumper to my stock wiring harness to be able to use the car until the new harness would get here but they refused me of these wishes. And on top of this, they want $250 for a new harness with me still having to send mine in. That is more than what I paid for the harness in the first place but I am at a point that I have no other choice but to do what they want. Then I started looking further, they charge $250 for you to convert an 02-04' Kproed ECU to the new daughter board and conversion harness so why would it be the same price for the harness as a full conversion??? I am not needing another Daughter board, I am not needing anything else other than a new Male pin for the harness!!!!!!!

Am I wrong in thinking this is kinda screwed up??? Doug, please pitch in and explain to me why this is costing me more than a new harness costed me in the first place and why I am required to ship you the harness I paid $150 for in the first place for the privilege of you selling me yet another one for an inflated price.

I have been a loyal Hondata fan and client for years and this is the first time you guys really let me down. Needless to say I am a bit disappointed in this whole ordeal.

Oh, and about the 02-04' Kpro conversion to the 05-06' Kpro I took the info directly from your website, please see below, tell me if my logic is skewed.

This quote is taken from here:
http://www.hondata.com/kpro.html

* 2005-2006 RSX (manual transmission with adapter harness and modified 02-04 ecu and O2 sensor)

Price Description
$250 Upgrade an already K-Pro'd ecu for use in an 05-06 RSX (includes adapter harness and ecu modification)

iBoost · Post by **iBoost** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:31 pm

Sounds to me like gaining the most money off of your problem is the only thing that matters. And it isn't like you are the one that created the problem in the beginning.

I don't have an 05-06, so I haven't looked into the pricing and everything, but from what you stated, it doesn't make any sense why it would be that much.

1_BAD_RSX · Post by **1_BAD_RSX** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:40 pm

I agree with you Josh seems way out of line when all you need is a pin.... I also have a 02-04 model though and havent bought K-Pro yet hope my experience is better than this

concept11253 · Post by **concept11253** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:51 pm

It doesn't make sense that you have to send in your old harness in order for them to sell you a new one. If he was trying to copy the design on the harness then wouldn't he just do it with the one he already has? Why would he have to send something back that he already paid money for. I can see sending back the defective harness in replacement for a new one at no additional cost but not sending it back and having to pay for a new one. That makes no sense what so ever.

archull · Post by **archull** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:59 pm

concept11253 wrote:It doesn't make sense that you have to send in your old harness in order for them to sell you a new one. If he was trying to copy the design on the harness then wouldn't he just do it with the one he already has? Why would he have to send something back that he already paid money for. I can see sending back the defective harness in replacement for a new one at no additional cost but not sending it back and having to pay for a new one. That makes no sense what so ever.

I can see this as well or at lease give me a substantial percentage of the cost of a new harness as a trade in when buying the new harness. I wanted to keep the harness to use to be able to move the car around until the new harness came in and to be able to use the old harness for parts when the old one breaks. Having to buy a new harness for $250 after paying $150 for the first one that didn't last is bullshit to be honest. Makes me want to just buy the boomslang harness which is the same thing but costs $100 less. I was expecting to pay $150 for a new harness and not having to send the old one in. When they stated that I was going to have to pay $250 and send the old one back I asked them how large of a vat of KY they were going to send me with the harness.

I just feel that this was a shitty deal and that they should sell me a harness to me for less than this, especially if they expect me to send my old one back to them.

I have been buying Hondata for years, hell, when I ordered this ECU I ordered 3 of them at one time to do the 2 K-swap cars we were building. I dropped $3k down in a day and sent it to Hondata and this is the kinda shit I get in return. Makes me sad to see stuff like this happen because it really makes me not want to deal with a company that treats their customers like this.

Creepy Chris · Post by **Creepy Chris** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:31 pm

That's pretty crappy Brandon. I've got an 05 and I hope something like this doesn't happen to me. Thankfully in my case, Hondata is less than 2 hours away from me.

For what 05-06 guys pay for Kpro, you'd think the least they could do is send you a new harness (even if you have to pay a little, i.e. less than $250) and just have you send in the damaged one. Would be nice if they redesigned the harness to make it a little shorter. Help prevent this from happening, as well as make it a better fit.

Considering the horror stories I've heard about their customer service, you're gonna need quite a bit of KY before this is said and done.

Good luck.

Post by **Spunkster** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:07 pm

The price and information Javier gave you is correct. Since the harness is not sold separately, if you damage a harness and need a replacmeent we require the old one to be returned to get a new one.

The $250 price you are quoting does not include a K-Pro board or K-Pro installation. That is for an ECU that already has a K-Pro installed into it.

rsxdude · Post by **rsxdude** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:46 pm

That's odd because I was told that the Kpro for 05-06 were different than the Kpro for 02-04. That quote he posted were to convert a KPRO ecu to a KPRO ecu that could be used for an 05-06 PLUS the harness to be used for 250. IF he's not getting the service done since he already has converted it for 05-06 usage, then what else is he getting with the harness? I do understand people copy other's hard work and I do believe in protecting your investment, but on the other hand, I think it is a bit far fetched to charge more for someone to give THEIR property back for FREE and PAY more for the same product. Just my .02.

archull · Post by **archull** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:29 pm

Spunkster wrote:The price and information Javier gave you is correct. Since the harness is not sold separately, if you damage a harness and need a replacmeent we require the old one to be returned to get a new one.

The $250 price you are quoting does not include a K-Pro board or K-Pro installation. That is for an ECU that already has a K-Pro installed into it.

But I don't need a new harness, I need a damn pin which you guys refuse to sell me and in doing so are over charging me big time. The pin is less than 20 cents where as a harness from you guys is $250 (or if you are a first time buyer $150).

I know the harness is not a $250 part since they sell the Kpro for 05-06' for $125 more than 02-04' Type-s so you can't tell me that the harness is a $250 price.

archull · Post by **archull** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:07 am

still waiting on a valid reason for the astronomical pricing.

Other companies sell these same adapter harnesses for over $100 less and they offer a warranty on them.

Would you guys warranty your own harnesses?? If so I have one ready to be shipped out.