FANC (Fan Control) Wiring

locash · Post by **locash** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:45 pm

You are going to try and tell me you don’t own a Helms manual for 92-93 Integras? All Helms manuals for the 92-93 Integra contain wiring diagrams for Canadian models.

Yes, I am going to try and tell you that I don't own every damn manual Honda ever made, lol.

If you are using a PR4 ECU, according to the S300 help file, it may not have the FANC output anyway.

Furthermore, you asked how to wire the FANC output, and I just told you how to in my last post, what more can we do to help you? This is getting rediculous, I answered your exact question.

locash · Post by **locash** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:48 pm

IF THE FANC WIRING DOES NOT EXIST IN YOUR MODEL OF CAR, REFER TO PREVIOUSLY POSTED DIAGRAM.

That should be clear enough for ya..

:)

m_sasso · Post by **m_sasso** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:25 pm

Hello Locash,

You are correct I to have come too the conclusion it is ridiculous to expect a correction or apology from Hondata for providing negligent information and carrying this on any further is not likely to magnetize their attention or elicit a response.
However I am sure I made you laugh with how dense you believe I am.

Martian · Post by **Martian** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:10 am

Hey dumbass, a thermo switch is a relay by definition. Figure it out!!!!!!!!!

m_sasso · Post by **m_sasso** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:10 pm

Martian wrote:Hey dumbass, a thermo switch is a relay by definition. Figure it out!!!!!!!!!

Hey smart guy, that is why it is called a thermo switch and not a thermo relay, better check your electrical definitions. A relay is a switch however not all switches are relays, big difference.

Before you start calling people names referencing their knowledge you better be dam sure you know what your talking about, makes you look really unintelligent.

relay = an electrical switch that opens and closes under the control of another electrical circuit

switch = an electrical component that can break an electrical circuit

Martian · Post by **Martian** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:02 am

and you are the one who can't figure out something so basic. You're an internet tough guy with nothing to add to this forum. Enjoy life oh super tooner electrical engineer who doesn't need anyones help, but asks anyhow just to talk shit and be rude.

Post by **Spunkster** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:57 am

The thermo switch is wired to a relay. All Hondas have a relay for the fans.

fly_n · Post by **fly_n** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:58 am

saying that it connects exactly like the thermo switch isnt negligent,its just assuming that u have the ability to make an assessment in your situation to make it act in the same way as the thermo switch,in other words,its a ground trigger setup by the ecu.

all i was saying is that if u couldnt judge the load of a rad fan compared to other output loads being controlled by the ecu(without even having to open it up & find out what the components are rated at),then maybe u should leave it up to someone who has better judgement.

if u are indeed entering your car in formula 1 next year & cant deal with having a few grams of extra relay on board,then i understand your dilemma.
But i highly doubt thats the case & if u want to keep fiddling with the wiring in your car to the extent that u risk frying the ecu,because u cant deal with simple assessments like these,i think its time to hand over your car to someone thats more capable.

i was tryin to be polite about it in the first instance,but u obviously want to be an arse about it instead.

i would much rather see the admins developing new gear or ironing out existing probs in the product line than seeing them sitting on here teaching basic wiring practice........... wouldnt u???

m_sasso · Post by **m_sasso** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:25 am

Spunkster wrote:The thermo switch is wired to a relay. All Hondas have a relay for the fans.

You are wrong, if you can read wiring diagrams show me where the relay is for 92-93 Integras with out A/C? The image is directly out of a Helms manual. And just to make it easy for I highlighted in red!

Post by **Spunkster** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:21 am

Jaker · Post by **Jaker** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:51 pm

Marc,

Look for the actual wiring/components in the car. It wouldn't be the 1st time the Helms was wrong. I'd be very surprised if the relay and stuff is not there. A/C was a dealer installed option for the Civics of that generation. Was it not also dealer installed for the Tegs? I don't think the install would be that involved if Honda expected the dealer tech to do the work.

CivicVTi · Post by **CivicVTi** » Mon May 03, 2010 1:32 pm

One brief question. Say I have a stock thermoswitch (around 93C triggering) and I have installed a low temp thermostat (opening at 68C). I want to avoid buying a new thermoswitch (triggering around 83C) and do it through Hondata (and also have the double protection in case the thermoswitch fails). In the 'Protection' parameters, if I set FANC triggering at 83C (or 182F if you like) I guess the fan will start at 182F but when will it stop? Will it stop as soon as it sees 181F or will continue to operate for say a 5-6 degree drop?

Post by **Spunkster** » Mon May 03, 2010 4:40 pm

It continues until there is a few degree drop.

CivicVTi · Post by **CivicVTi** » Mon May 03, 2010 11:44 pm

Thanks! I wonder if it is technically feasible to add a 'fan-off' temperature in one of the future versions.