Hondata Heatshield

pa1071 · Post by **pa1071** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 11:53 pm

I have a hondata heatshield on my car and to seems to have stretched or melted. I have had problems since my car has had the heatshield and turbo installed by a mechanic recommended by the hondata guy. I have always been losing water ever since the install but didn't know where it was coming from. Some days it would lose abit and other days it would dump it everywhere.

Well yesterday it dumped water again so i drove it straight to the mechanices so they could see it actually happening. They have found where the water was coming from, it was coming from my intake manifold.

Today the mechaninc removed the intake manifold to find that the heatshield has elogated (stretched) and where the water was leaking from the heatshield has disintergrated. All this was over the phone so have not actually seen the gasket as I cant get there with no car.

Could this be caused by a faulty heatshield or bad installation?

To me it has to be either one or the other or both.

Has anyone had this problem or can enlighten me on why it might have happened?

Cheers

Paul

QUICKSILVER RACING · Post by **QUICKSILVER RACING** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:48 am

I dunno how the heatshield gasket could have elongated or melted.

But it sure sounds like your leaking water in the return line near cylinder number 4.

I never had problems with the heatshield gasket. Several ones installed.

pa1071 · Post by **pa1071** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:15 am

would the car overheating cause the heatshield gasket to melt

QUICKSILVER RACING · Post by **QUICKSILVER RACING** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:49 am

I could be a reason. find out the reason for overheating first.

pa1071 · Post by **pa1071** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:20 am

The problem with the overheating was caused by a aftermarket fan being installed in reverse.

But getting the mechanic and the hondata guy who installed the gear to believe this is like talking to a brick wall.

THe fan was blowing engine heat on to my radiator instead of sucking air from the outside of the car. Therefore my car radiator coolant wasn't cooling down. Meaning my car was only getting hot coolant everytime the thermostat opened.not cooled down coolant.

Now all this overheating has caused a leak to appear near my intake manifold. At first i thought it was the pipes near the thermostat so I replaced them but it still leaked water. Then upgraded to a PWR Radiator which stopped the overheating but the leak was still there. Finally yesterday car dumped water everywhere so I took it to the mechanics and they found the leak at the intake manifold.

The heatshield is now warped and no one what to take responibility for anything that has happened. And the guy who sold me the heatshield is blaming my car for the problems not the bad installation.

QUICKSILVER RACING · Post by **QUICKSILVER RACING** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:57 pm

I see. The best thing is to fix this. If you dont trust the guy anymore then go to a another reputable shop.

I guess the reversed wiring did a lot of damage but I am not an expert on this.

pa1071 · Post by **pa1071** » Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:33 am

Cars back and going now. Heatshield looks a bit worse for wear. Running the car with a stock gasket at the moment. Hopefully getting another one in a few weeks.

See how it goes next time.

The return line hole on the gasket had sort of enlarged itself to over twice the size.

At least my car is going now

Post by **Hondata** » Sat Dec 13, 2003 10:10 am

We have only seen a problem with heatsheilds on D16 engines which have overheated or blown a head gasket. We would like you to send us the heatshield so we can look at it. Call us and arrange for the gasket to be shipped to us, and we send another. There is no such thing as a Hondata authorised mechanic, who was 'the hondata guy' you talked to?

pa1071 · Post by **pa1071** » Sun Dec 14, 2003 3:33 am

Sorry I should have written "he recommended a mechanic".

I will send the Gasket as soon as I can.

So it sounds like overheating might have caused it. I have a B18B Turboed running 7 psi

turbosi92 · Post by **turbosi92** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:02 am

Hondata wrote:We have only seen a problem with heatsheilds on D16 engines which have overheated or blown a head gasket. We would like you to send us the heatshield so we can look at it. Call us and arrange for the gasket to be shipped to us, and we send another. There is no such thing as a Hondata authorised mechanic, who was 'the hondata guy' you talked to?

So is there a problem with the D16 ones? I have one that I was putting on this winter

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Post by **Spunkster** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:45 am

There is only a problem if you overheat your engine or blow a headgasket. This will probably happen on any engine, not just the d-series.

turbosi92 · Post by **turbosi92** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 11:49 am

Spunkster wrote:There is only a problem if you overheat your engine or blow a headgasket. This will probably happen on any engine, not just the d-series.

What I thought but I wanted to confirm.

RMS · Post by **RMS** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:05 pm

we have installed many of these gaskets, and I highly recommend them. i have seen ZERO problems from their use, and datalogging shows significant temp drops.

watch out for knockoffs made from questionable materials.

pa1071 · Post by **pa1071** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:08 am

Quick question....When installing the heatshield gasket is ok to use a gasket bond (eg Honda gasket, Nissian Bond)? Just curious.

Post by **Spunkster** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:01 pm

There is no need for any sealant or other gaskets when using a Hondata gasket.

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