JDM Honda Civic FD2 Type R

august77 · Post by **august77** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:11 am

not too sure about this... maybe 3 to 5%

Oh yeah.. have installed the ECU onto my fren's car.. Confirm the speed on the meter can show over 180km/h and when we tested the speed was about 220km/h.

Alarm works fine except for the immobiliser.

FD2R_HKG · Post by **FD2R_HKG** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:15 am

Umm... then it is still not as good as Spoon Japan.

august77 · Post by **august77** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:22 am

The mods for the dyno result you see there is only an intake system. Everything else is stock (exhaust and hearder).

So, that explains why the end result is not as good as Spoon (Intake, Header and Exhaust upgraded).

Drivetrain loss for both Dynapack and Dyno-Dynamics are 15% and 20% respectively.

So, 228hp at the flywheel is not too bad for intake mod only.

august77 · Post by **august77** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:26 am

I am now waiting for my ECU (not Hondata) to arrive soon.. And the Dyno result is about 240hp @8000 rpm. That is a massive 289hp at the flywheel for NA motor.

Mods are: GruppeM Ram Air System, Toda Exhaust Manifold and Toda Catback Exhaust + Japan tuned ECU.

Let me know if you wan to see the dyno result.

FD2R_HKG · Post by **FD2R_HKG** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:13 am

Spoon pulls 227hp @ 8000rpm using standard manifold, and air intake but decat exhaust.

august77 · Post by **august77** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:52 pm

227hp @ 8000rpm , flywheel or wheel result.

The decat exhaust will be less restrictive (with removal of catalytic) thus you will surely expect a higher hp.

Anyway, the Hondata is just a reflashed and if used on different FD2R will surely have different results, coz not all FD2R are 100% identical.

Let's hope Hondata will come out with a K-Pro solution for FD2R and with the ability to fine tune on a dyno.. you'll definitely expect a better result.

FD2R_HKG · Post by **FD2R_HKG** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:43 pm

The Spoon flashed ECU 227hp result is to the driveshaft, since it is on a Dynopack. But I agree with you, not all FD2R is identical and I am sure Hondata will work on the K-Pro solution in the future. Go Hondata!!

august77 · Post by **august77** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:32 am

Yeah... Go Hondata!!

In the meantime, I'll have to settle for a standalone aftermarket ECU from Japan. :D

What mods have you done to your FD2R btw?

So far, I've got a TODA Exhaust System and GruppeM Ram Air Syatem on my car. Now waiting for TODA Exhaust Header (decat) with MR ECU.

FD2R_HKG · Post by **FD2R_HKG** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:28 am

Well, since my FD2R is a circuit race car, the regulations only all us to do minimal to the car. The car now running with Motec and ... exhaust. Airbox and manifold must remain standard. Suspension is wearing a set of AST Competition, Wheels are Mugen factory and Tires are Michelin slicks.

august77 · Post by **august77** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:57 am

Whao.. You have a circuit race car.. nice.

Issit the CTR one make race version or the one mod by Mugen itself for circuit racing?

Motec is a good choice for an ECU upgrade.. Too bad they are abit over priced.

FD2R_HKG · Post by **FD2R_HKG** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:17 am

It is the CTR one make race version and we build from ground up. Motec is designed for motorsport, it gives loads of driver's data for the team to study, which I don't think a street car would need that.

chris2000 · Post by **chris2000** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:57 pm

guys, anyone actually test the Hondata yet and did the dyno on them.

So far what i heard from some local tuners here is that the stock fd2r ecu has been highly tuned and most aftermarket reflash will not gain much on peak power, maybe only 2-3whp but the solid gains are in the lower to mid range gain. How much truth has this?

FD2R_HKG,

Great CTR you have there for race. Is that going to be run in Zuhai?? Also are you from KC Racing? Do you have an email i can contact you?

FD2R_HKG · Post by **FD2R_HKG** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:34 pm

Chris, so far we have compared back to back with Spoon and standard ECU, the Spoon ECU provides better torque curve and increase 3.2kg/m, from 18.9kg/m improve to 22.1kg/m, which means better acceleration out of the slow corners. As for the power curve, the Spoon lifted the whole power curve and increase the horsepower from 182.2PS to 226PS.

Standard engine
http://picasaweb.google.com.tw/bemron/F ... 6352118626

Spoon ECU
http://picasaweb.google.com.tw/bemron/F ... 8285530962

Yes, the CTR will be racing in ZIC. Please search for us on the internet, as we do not have permission to do advertisment here. Sorry!!!

By the way, if you goto page 1 in this topic, august77 has posted the graph of the Hondata ECU.

august77 · Post by **august77** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:50 am

Hi,

Just and update.. Finally there is a video showing the dyno result for FD2R with Hondata Reflashed ECU.

Note: Dyno machine used is a Dynapack (so, loss will be around 10 to 13%)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjQf87j1Q6k

FD2R_HKG · Post by **FD2R_HKG** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:51 pm

I couldn't see the torque figure, but it seems Spoon still tops Hondata.