2011 CR-Z HKS GT2 + injectors basemap
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Re: 2011 CR-Z HKS GT2 + injectors basemap
Johnny,
Sorry for the delay. I finally had time to look over the calibrations in more detail. It is possible the car needs some fine tuning at part throttle to help with the switch feeling. When looking at the HP from HKS double check the modification the car was running for the dyno graph produced. This makes it an even comparison.
It is possible they sat you in the waiting room due to liability issues but it does suck that you couldn't talk to the tuner.
If the belt is slipping it could cause you to lose power. The exhaust can also have an impact. The faster you intake air the faster you need to exhaust it.
I compared the Dyno tune to the calibration I helped you with. It looks like they used the same file I helped dial in.
Finding below:
Rev limiter was increased. 6,500rpm to 7,000rpm
High cam ignition timing was adjusted for columns 3.9psi,5.9psi, 7.9psi and 9.9psi 3,000rpm to 7,000rpm
High cam fuel was adjusted for columns 0.2psi, 2psi, 3.9psi, 5.9psi, 7.9psi and 9.9psi 3,000rpm to 7,000rpm
Map sensor data changed to 4 bar
Once you get a WOT log i can tell you how its doing in the upper RPM range.
- Ed
Sorry for the delay. I finally had time to look over the calibrations in more detail. It is possible the car needs some fine tuning at part throttle to help with the switch feeling. When looking at the HP from HKS double check the modification the car was running for the dyno graph produced. This makes it an even comparison.
It is possible they sat you in the waiting room due to liability issues but it does suck that you couldn't talk to the tuner.
If the belt is slipping it could cause you to lose power. The exhaust can also have an impact. The faster you intake air the faster you need to exhaust it.
I compared the Dyno tune to the calibration I helped you with. It looks like they used the same file I helped dial in.
Finding below:
Rev limiter was increased. 6,500rpm to 7,000rpm
High cam ignition timing was adjusted for columns 3.9psi,5.9psi, 7.9psi and 9.9psi 3,000rpm to 7,000rpm
High cam fuel was adjusted for columns 0.2psi, 2psi, 3.9psi, 5.9psi, 7.9psi and 9.9psi 3,000rpm to 7,000rpm
Map sensor data changed to 4 bar
Once you get a WOT log i can tell you how its doing in the upper RPM range.
- Ed
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Re: 2011 CR-Z HKS GT2 + injectors basemap
By "WOT log" do you mean stretching out 1st through 6th to the rev limit with the pedal to the floor? I can do that, just making sure of what you would like to see and how long do I record data.
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Yes, it means pedal to the floor. Do this in 3rd gear 3 times. The log should be short as all you need is the WOT pulls.
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I made these on the way home from work, hopefully 3 separate files aren't a problem. If you need 3 consecutive runs on one data log let me know and I will take a trip to the country on a road that's not too busy.
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You're averaging 5-6psi of boost. After 5,000rpm the car is running very rich. You are also getting up to 5 degrees of knock retard at WOT. That may be why you are lacking power.Francejf wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:27 pm I made these on the way home from work, hopefully 3 separate files aren't a problem. If you need 3 consecutive runs on one data log let me know and I will take a trip to the country on a road that's not too busy.
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Re: 2011 CR-Z HKS GT2 + injectors basemap
After reading a few different stories on here, I think I understand now what your looking for as far as a WOT pull. Seems like I started a little low in the rpm range when I collected my data, would that cause any mishaps with the results? I'm going for a drive and will try to get you some better data if you don't mind looking over it. I had also just filled up with 93 octane, but not at a station that I frequently stop at. It was a popular gas station so I wouldn't think the quality of has would be an issue but it's possible.CalibratEd wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:45 pmYou're averaging 5-6psi of boost. After 5,000rpm the car is running very rich. You are also getting up to 5 degrees of knock retard at WOT. That may be why you are lacking power.Francejf wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:27 pm I made these on the way home from work, hopefully 3 separate files aren't a problem. If you need 3 consecutive runs on one data log let me know and I will take a trip to the country on a road that's not too busy.
-Ed
Also:
I really appreciate you taking the time to look over this and help me out. You have taken time away from your life for the past few weeks to to get my car running good an there's no telling how many others on here you have helped as well. You are very much appreciated. Is there a way for me to compensate you for your time?
Re: 2011 CR-Z HKS GT2 + injectors basemap
Here is another datalog, hopefully better information. I did forget to hold the pedal to the floor on the first pull but did so on all the rest. The last pull I pressed the sport mode button, not sure if I should have or not as I did not feel anything different in power.
Thanks,
Johnny
Thanks,
Johnny
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Johnny,Francejf wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:41 pmAfter reading a few different stories on here, I think I understand now what your looking for as far as a WOT pull. Seems like I started a little low in the rpm range when I collected my data, would that cause any mishaps with the results? I'm going for a drive and will try to get you some better data if you don't mind looking over it. I had also just filled up with 93 octane, but not at a station that I frequently stop at. It was a popular gas station so I wouldn't think the quality of has would be an issue but it's possible.CalibratEd wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:45 pmYou're averaging 5-6psi of boost. After 5,000rpm the car is running very rich. You are also getting up to 5 degrees of knock retard at WOT. That may be why you are lacking power.Francejf wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:27 pm I made these on the way home from work, hopefully 3 separate files aren't a problem. If you need 3 consecutive runs on one data log let me know and I will take a trip to the country on a road that's not too busy.
-Ed
Also:
I really appreciate you taking the time to look over this and help me out. You have taken time away from your life for the past few weeks to to get my car running good an there's no telling how many others on here you have helped as well. You are very much appreciated. Is there a way for me to compensate you for your time?
Thanks for offering to compensate me for my time. I pm'd you a donation link. Starting down low should not have an affect on the data.
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Johnny,Francejf wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:46 pm Here is another datalog, hopefully better information. I did forget to hold the pedal to the floor on the first pull but did so on all the rest. The last pull I pressed the sport mode button, not sure if I should have or not as I did not feel anything different in power.
Thanks,
Johnny
I reviewed the log and I observed the same thing. The car is running rich above 4,000rpm, the car is pulling 6 degrees of timing at WOT and you are boosting 6lbs.
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Re: 2011 CR-Z HKS GT2 + injectors basemap
So would you suggest subtracting 2 degrees or more out of timing and adjust the high fuel map? Do you want to see 0 degree at WOT normally?CalibratEd wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:52 pmJohnny,Francejf wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:46 pm Here is another datalog, hopefully better information. I did forget to hold the pedal to the floor on the first pull but did so on all the rest. The last pull I pressed the sport mode button, not sure if I should have or not as I did not feel anything different in power.
Thanks,
Johnny
I reviewed the log and I observed the same thing. The car is running rich above 4,000rpm, the car is pulling 6 degrees of timing at WOT and you are boosting 6lbs.
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Yes, ideally you don’t want any knock retard at WOT. The high fuel map needs to be leaned out a bit. If you plan to do it on your own I suggest to make small adjustments at a time. Did you reach out to the shop? I always recommend to speak to the tuner to give them a chance to make it right.Francejf wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:59 amSo would you suggest subtracting 2 degrees or more out of timing and adjust the high fuel map? Do you want to see 0 degree at WOT normally?CalibratEd wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 7:52 pmJohnny,Francejf wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:46 pm Here is another datalog, hopefully better information. I did forget to hold the pedal to the floor on the first pull but did so on all the rest. The last pull I pressed the sport mode button, not sure if I should have or not as I did not feel anything different in power.
Thanks,
Johnny
I reviewed the log and I observed the same thing. The car is running rich above 4,000rpm, the car is pulling 6 degrees of timing at WOT and you are boosting 6lbs.
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Re: 2011 CR-Z HKS GT2 + injectors basemap
I emailed them and sent them my datalogs and finally heard back yesterday. The only response was "we will review and get back to you". They haven't gotten back to me yet, I'm going to call tomorrow in case they forgot.
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That's good to hear. At least they replied. I always give people the benefit of the doubt. What they do next will determine their work ethic. I hope all goes well.Francejf wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:38 pm I emailed them and sent them my datalogs and finally heard back yesterday. The only response was "we will review and get back to you". They haven't gotten back to me yet, I'm going to call tomorrow in case they forgot.
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Re: 2011 CR-Z HKS GT2 + injectors basemap
I had to remind them again but finally got something back from the shop on Wednesday. I was out of town all week so I haven't had a chance to download the calibration to the car yet but plan on doing that today and take a datalog. Hopefully the results are a little better. Here is what they sent me.
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The high octane fuel was adjusted above 4,000 rpm from 3.9psi to 9.0psi. Knock sensitivity tables have also been adjusted. How's the car running? Did you feel an improvement? Post a datalog when you can.Francejf wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:27 pm I had to remind them again but finally got something back from the shop on Wednesday. I was out of town all week so I haven't had a chance to download the calibration to the car yet but plan on doing that today and take a datalog. Hopefully the results are a little better. Here is what they sent me.
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