K24 base map maybe?

[chase_fa5]

Hello, I have an 08 FA5, it's K frank swapped. K24a RBB block, Z3 Head with TSX cams, 50 degree cam gears, RBC manifold, stock oil pump. Mods are PLM K24 swap header, 3 inch thermal r&d exhaust, and K&N short ram intake. I'm gonna be installing a hybrid racing cold air intake this weekend, so my question is will I need a new base map or can I baby it until I get it Dyno tuned? I looked at the base tune that's on the car and it seems like it was tuned with the Skunk2 cold air intake in mind even though it has the K&n short ram on it. Car runs great right now, my worry is the other intake is gonna make it run different. Please let me know

[EFICU]

The only thing that will cause major drivability issues is if your calibration is MAF based instead of speed density. If the calibration you're running is designed to run speed density, then you'll be fine with the calibration as a starting point but will most likely need a lot of adjustments. Go into your calibration, there will be a "calibration" tab at the top, then click on "fuel" and scroll down where it says "use MAP tables". If the use MAP tables box isn't checked then it isn't speed density.

How soon are you planning to get dyno tuned?

[chase_fa5]

I'll have to check that when I get home. As far as getting I'm tune, more than likely ASAP. I'm gonna see how far out my local Dyno place is booked out until, otherwise I'll find a place that can do it sooner rather than later

[EFICU]

Okay sounds good. Yeah I would recommend doing some due diligence on finding a dyno tuner and be willing to travel. I am coming across a lot of dyno tunes that are just that, tuned to drive on the dyno. There is no part throttle tuning done and very little effort put into anything but wide open throttle (WOT). If all out power if your only goal then dyno tuning is fine, but if drivability and near max power are your main goals you might want to go an e-tuning route. When looking into a dyno tuner, ask some questions about street driving to verify tune on the street, how long will the tune take, etc. If you want to discuss more of that let me know. But some of the tunes I've come across lately couldn't have taken more than an hour on the dyno, if that.

I can help you in either capacity if you want, whether to tune it completely or get it safe to make it to a dyno tune.

[chase_fa5]

So I went into it, and I'm not seeing anything at all. When I click on calibration nothing pops up, It does have a description for a tune but it doesn't seem like I can change anything or do anything else. I'm new to this so I could be missing something. Would anyone be able to make me a quick base map that would have the MAP over MAF? Otherwise I'm just gonna run my other intake and slap it on once I get to a Dyno. I do see a calibration that says Civic Si race K24 TSX, which is essentially what my motor is but I don't wanna upload that one and break something.

[EFICU]

I can help you in whatever capacity you want, either a complete tune or just a tune to get to the dyno, it's entirely up to you.

[EFICU]

Sorry I forgot you mentioned the race calibration for the K24, you don't want to use race calibrations nowadays, they are no longer required. It will cause your fuel gauge to be off slightly and your oil life monitor won't work.

We can definitely go in and tune completely so you can have fun with it while you await the dyno. It would take around 10-12 revisions to get it dialed and all smoothed out. Just let me know if you want to do it, and I can get you the first file.

[chase_fa5]

Alright sounds good. Yeah let's go ahead and do that, I haven't called around the tuning shops yet so I'm not sure how long it'll be. The short ram is still on it but the cold air is set up so I can just slap it on. Is there any info you need??

[EFICU]

Okay sounds good, I'll get a basemap put together tonight for you and get it posted. And I will go over the protocol for datalogs and all that too.

[chase_fa5]

Alright sounds good! Appreciate you helping me out!

[EFICU]

No problem. I am just finishing it up, I'm guessing you're okay with running the rev limiter at 7500, or did you want it lower? You wouldn't want to go over that with the stock oil pump, but if you want it at 7200 or something let me know so I can get that in there.

And the only issue I see is perhaps running into is maxing the injectors, but we can keep an eye on it.

Let me know on the rev limiter and I will send over the file. I am setting everything up for the Hybrid Racing intake, is that still the plan or are you keeping the K&N?

[chase_fa5]

Alright sounds good! 7500 will be good for the rev limit, the current tune had it set a little too high. And yes I will be switching over to the Hybrid racing cold air intake

[EFICU]

Okay here you go. We will be going in and tuning each cam angle one by one, and then blending everything out based on the data. We will start with the 0* cam angle with vtec at 4500. For datalogs, we need them to be in the twenty minute range with as much stop and go type driving as possible. While on the drive, we need to make one wide open throttle (WOT) pull in third gear from 2500-7500 to work on the WOT fuel. For this first datalog, keep the driving normal and calm with only the one WOT pull in third gear while we gather data. I like to get this first datalog with normal driving and nothing aggressive so we can see how it looks before you have too much fun with it.

Also, the 0* cam angle is the least powerful, so don't get discouraged when it doesn't feel strong. As we move up in cam angle it will get better. So take this one for a spin once you get the HR intake on. Shoot for twenty minutes of normal driving with the WOT pull, and we'll see how it looks.

Chase_fa5.SD.Rev01.1 (0Cam)(Vtec4500).fpcal

[chase_fa5]

Awesome! I'll get the intake on probably tomorrow and then get the data logging done too

[EFICU]

Sounds good, we'll see how it looks.