Yeah we get spoiled with the Honda OEM quality and reliability, then when something goes wrong we're shocked. Haha. But yeah, In totality I guess I don't know how often it happens in total, but it's become somewhat common as I have three of you guys right now with the same issue. At least it's a simple and relatively inexpensive fix, and since you bought a quality replacement you have the peace of mind to know it's working properly and will continue to do so for a long time.
The 15* cam seems to be a good cam angle for part throttle I've found. Then I ramp it up as we go into vtec, but I always wait to see the data in the end before I make decisions. But yeah, definitely over the 0* cam for sure. The 0* cam just gives us a good base to start on and build some good data. It will feel stronger in WOT too. With your intake only mod, the cam angle will taper down to the 15* cam angle most likely near redline. When we move to the 30* cam in a couple revisions, you will notice a huge increase in midrange on WOT. This process will show you why cam angle mapping and VTC operation are so important to these cars and how come they are so much fun to drive when tuned properly.
The 15* cam angle worked out nicely as far as AFR. When we move up in cam angle, we copy and paste the 0* cam fuel tables into the 15* tables. Then I add some fuel in that based on past cars to get it close right away. But yeah, not rich at all, and actually a touch lean, but nothing unsafe only like 3-5%. This next one will be just about dead on.
So here is the next one, still the 15* cam angle but with vtec now at 4000. We move vtec around to tune before and after vtec and to find which rpm might work best. So it might feel sluggish on the crossover at 4000, but don't worry, it's all part of the process. Vtec won't be that low in the end. It's looking good so far. I touched up some fuel in this last one and some ignition for knock.
Same datalog and driving style in this one.
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For sensor, most of time I would go with OEM or a high quality sensor specially if it's vital to the engine. I'm thinking if I should change my wife's 08 civic (non-SI) to see if MPGs get better.
I'm really excited for the other cam angles and see the outcome. Seeing the huge difference between 0 and 15 was actually mind blowing. Its also because I was driving it for over 2 weeks.
After reviewing the datalog I'm happy the knock is gone. But I think I only revved up to 8550 and not the full 8600. Just not used to seeing it that high.
Here's my next datalog. Like what you mentioned VTEC at 4000 was sluggish but it did pick up really quick.
I'm really excited for the other cam angles and see the outcome. Seeing the huge difference between 0 and 15 was actually mind blowing. Its also because I was driving it for over 2 weeks.
After reviewing the datalog I'm happy the knock is gone. But I think I only revved up to 8550 and not the full 8600. Just not used to seeing it that high.
Here's my next datalog. Like what you mentioned VTEC at 4000 was sluggish but it did pick up really quick.
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Yeah that's a good call. I just don't want someone grabbing one quickly off Amazon with a no name brand. One guy I found this issue with mentioned he got his from Amazon and it had this issue. So I always try to get guys to invest in a quality sensor.
You will notice a big jump in this next one as we are moving onto the 30* cam angle. This one should pull pretty good throughout, though we are moving vtec back up to 5500 on this one, so it should really kick in when vtec kicks in at 5500. Once we determine the vtec point and blend out the cam angle map, then it will all come together and have a linear acceleration ramp. But I'm glad you're enjoying the process and find it interesting.
Yep the knock is gone. Though now we are moving up to the 30* cam, so some might come back as this is a new set of ignition tables. But it's all part of the process to see what it likes. And no problem, 8500 is plenty. If you want, we can lower the rev limiter to 8400 or whatever if you like. You don't have to run it at 8600, so feel free to let me know. 8600 is more for fun, they stop making power before that. So if you feel more comfortable at 8200, or 8400, just let me know.
Yeah vtec has an optimal window, which is a little hard to find without a dyno. But luckily we have the fuel table curves to look at and some other data. In the end, we want it to be a linear feel and make the power continue. So a nice smooth crossover is ideal. It's good that you can feel that, your feedback in the end will be valuable.
Here is the next one. That one looked great. So onto the 30* cam angle, vtec at 5500. Same datalog and driving style in this one.
You will notice a big jump in this next one as we are moving onto the 30* cam angle. This one should pull pretty good throughout, though we are moving vtec back up to 5500 on this one, so it should really kick in when vtec kicks in at 5500. Once we determine the vtec point and blend out the cam angle map, then it will all come together and have a linear acceleration ramp. But I'm glad you're enjoying the process and find it interesting.
Yep the knock is gone. Though now we are moving up to the 30* cam, so some might come back as this is a new set of ignition tables. But it's all part of the process to see what it likes. And no problem, 8500 is plenty. If you want, we can lower the rev limiter to 8400 or whatever if you like. You don't have to run it at 8600, so feel free to let me know. 8600 is more for fun, they stop making power before that. So if you feel more comfortable at 8200, or 8400, just let me know.
Yeah vtec has an optimal window, which is a little hard to find without a dyno. But luckily we have the fuel table curves to look at and some other data. In the end, we want it to be a linear feel and make the power continue. So a nice smooth crossover is ideal. It's good that you can feel that, your feedback in the end will be valuable.
Here is the next one. That one looked great. So onto the 30* cam angle, vtec at 5500. Same datalog and driving style in this one.
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I surprised that some people would cheap out on these sensors. I've had my fair share on trying to save money on cheap stuff that went good and some bad. Bad to a point where I would of saved more money on buying the quality part the first time.
I've noticed the 30* cam angle made a lot of difference both practical throttle and WOT. And I'm happy that there was no knock this revision. I'm okay with keeping the 8600 rpm redline it just that I'm not used to seeing the needle going that high. I eventually got used to the stock 8200 but with the 8600 is a another story. I'm just worried about oil starvation or valve float that I heard bad stories about. Especially since my valvetrain is stock.
Here's my next datalog. Hope everything looks good.
I've noticed the 30* cam angle made a lot of difference both practical throttle and WOT. And I'm happy that there was no knock this revision. I'm okay with keeping the 8600 rpm redline it just that I'm not used to seeing the needle going that high. I eventually got used to the stock 8200 but with the 8600 is a another story. I'm just worried about oil starvation or valve float that I heard bad stories about. Especially since my valvetrain is stock.
Here's my next datalog. Hope everything looks good.
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Yeah I think part of it is lulled into thinking because it's on Amazon or wherever that is must be a somewhat good part. When in reality, we have no idea who is on the other end of some of these Amazon stores. Haha. Ships from and sold by Amazon is fine, but anything else who knows. I think some people just have to learn on their own too, which is that way it is for some of us.
Your car definitely likes the 30* cam angle which is good. Some cars start to fall off in part throttle on the 30* cam, yours was pretty much the same fuel demand. These cars make me laugh sometimes, once you start to see a trend and think you have a grasp on something, a car comes along that acts different. Shows the point of tuning per the car and what it wants, versus tuning for what "most" like.
8600 is the safe limit. Some guys risk it by going over, but 8600 has been the industry standard for a rev limit now for over a decade. But I understand your concern. We can put it at 8400 if that does make you feel better, or just shoot to shift in the 8200 range and if something happened at least the limiter is there at 8600. Whatever you want, it's all your decisions, nothing is set it stone.
So that one looked great. Only made a few fueling changes, but it was very close. And no knock as you mention. Here is the next one, still the 30* cam with vtec back down to 4000 again. Same datalog and driving style.
Your car definitely likes the 30* cam angle which is good. Some cars start to fall off in part throttle on the 30* cam, yours was pretty much the same fuel demand. These cars make me laugh sometimes, once you start to see a trend and think you have a grasp on something, a car comes along that acts different. Shows the point of tuning per the car and what it wants, versus tuning for what "most" like.
8600 is the safe limit. Some guys risk it by going over, but 8600 has been the industry standard for a rev limit now for over a decade. But I understand your concern. We can put it at 8400 if that does make you feel better, or just shoot to shift in the 8200 range and if something happened at least the limiter is there at 8600. Whatever you want, it's all your decisions, nothing is set it stone.
So that one looked great. Only made a few fueling changes, but it was very close. And no knock as you mention. Here is the next one, still the 30* cam with vtec back down to 4000 again. Same datalog and driving style.
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I'm really happy that my car really liked the 30* cam. It really did wake the car up a lot in practical throttle and WOT. I noticed it more during regular driving. I don't really press on the throttle as much as before and the power delivery just picks right up. But yeah like what others say, people may have the same mods but every car reacts differently. Which is pretty weird but interesting at the same time. I know you mentioned that my car had the same fuel demand with the 15* and 30* for practical throttle. You mind showing me the fuel demand I'm kinda interested in understanding the datalogs ?
I'll just stick with 8600 right now. I don't really have a problem with it. After doing these 3rd gear pulls get me more comfortable with seeing the RPMs that high. And it's a little different seeing when I do hit the limiter, the recovery limit is quick.
Here's my next datalog. I did notice there was more knocks than the other datalog during WOT. And recently I did noticed after a WOT pull, my car produces a different smell in the car (windows are down), would you know if it's due to the car is burning more fuel during WOT? The smell is only after WOT. Hopefully it's not a gas leak or anything because I don't smell it at a stop light or practical throttle.
I'll just stick with 8600 right now. I don't really have a problem with it. After doing these 3rd gear pulls get me more comfortable with seeing the RPMs that high. And it's a little different seeing when I do hit the limiter, the recovery limit is quick.
Here's my next datalog. I did notice there was more knocks than the other datalog during WOT. And recently I did noticed after a WOT pull, my car produces a different smell in the car (windows are down), would you know if it's due to the car is burning more fuel during WOT? The smell is only after WOT. Hopefully it's not a gas leak or anything because I don't smell it at a stop light or practical throttle.
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That's good that it feels better. Yeah the throttle response helps a lot when you get tuned, but the throttle pedal map is adjusted as well to make it feel more responsive. The OEM throttle pedal map has you pushing the pedal say 40%, but the throttle body only opens only 25%. So you're pushing the pedal further than the throttle body is opening if that makes sense. My base pedal map makes it a little tighter, but not sensitive to the touch. I'll put together from screenshots to show you the fuel demand.
Okay sounds good on the rev limiter. It's fine having it there and you don't have to run it all the way out in the future, just there for protection.
Yeah I am curious on the knock. You didn't put gas in yesterday or today, between this datalog and the last? Just seems weird because you had no knock in the same area of the last datalog and now you have knock from 5900 to redline. Seems a little odd, unless you put gas in and perhaps got some low quality gas. But let me know. I'll wait to hear back from you on that before I post the next revision. As far as smell, not really sure since you have the stock cat. You might double check you don't have any loose hoses on the intake pipe letting oil vapors out or something. When you delete the cat, you can get some smells, but usually more at idle you notice it. But you might double check everything under the hood to make sure no hoses are loose.
Let me know on the gas situation, then we can go from there.
Okay sounds good on the rev limiter. It's fine having it there and you don't have to run it all the way out in the future, just there for protection.
Yeah I am curious on the knock. You didn't put gas in yesterday or today, between this datalog and the last? Just seems weird because you had no knock in the same area of the last datalog and now you have knock from 5900 to redline. Seems a little odd, unless you put gas in and perhaps got some low quality gas. But let me know. I'll wait to hear back from you on that before I post the next revision. As far as smell, not really sure since you have the stock cat. You might double check you don't have any loose hoses on the intake pipe letting oil vapors out or something. When you delete the cat, you can get some smells, but usually more at idle you notice it. But you might double check everything under the hood to make sure no hoses are loose.
Let me know on the gas situation, then we can go from there.
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Re: New to Flashpro 07 Civic SI w/ AEM CAI V1
Thanks for putting a screenshot of the fuel demand. I didn't noticed that stock was adjusted that much until I was driving your maps. I was just driving normal and observed my speed was climbing quickly.
I was actually curious about the knock too. I haven't put gas since the 2nd datalog I had sent. So pretty much the fuel has been the same since the 0* cam runs. I'm currently at half tank but that shouldn't effect the fuel delivery. But I'll go check my intake hoses if they're loose before my next datalog to verify everything is nice an tight. Hopefully with the smell it's only after a WOT pull which is weird but hopefully not something I should worry a lot about.
I don't think the road was bumpy when I did the WOT pull, do you think a bumpy road would give a false knock?
I was actually curious about the knock too. I haven't put gas since the 2nd datalog I had sent. So pretty much the fuel has been the same since the 0* cam runs. I'm currently at half tank but that shouldn't effect the fuel delivery. But I'll go check my intake hoses if they're loose before my next datalog to verify everything is nice an tight. Hopefully with the smell it's only after a WOT pull which is weird but hopefully not something I should worry a lot about.
I don't think the road was bumpy when I did the WOT pull, do you think a bumpy road would give a false knock?
Re: New to Flashpro 07 Civic SI w/ AEM CAI V1
Yeah from the factory, one tune has to work for the millions of Civics they sell and the hundreds of thousands of Si's they sell. I guess I don't know how many Si's are made but you know what I mean. So the calibrations have a large range of adjustments through fuel trims. In the tuning process, we are trying to get those trim as low as possible, there are still a lot of adjustments to be made even in stock form. Here are your 15* and 30* fuel tables, you can see how the curves and values are close to the same. Most Si's tend to fall off a little more on the 30* for part throttle, yours is pretty much the same. The theory is more fuel more power, as you can't make more power without more fuel, and air of course. Granted timing plays a role as well, but that is something we don't have a dyno to test, so we make educated guesses on that and make sure there is no knock.
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The knock is a little weird. Since it didn't do it on the first 30* cam angle run. It could have a been a fluke, and maybe a rough road, but it is hard to say other than it's odd. But we'll see how it goes from here. The knock wouldn't be from fuel delivery, it would be more from lower octane than expected, too much timing, or mechanical issue of some sort. Fuel delivery though isn't an issue, granted a lean condition or something can, but you're not lean at all. We'll keep an eye on it, it's all part of the process. I just wanted to make sure you didn't just get gas. The smell would happen on WOT because the everything gets hotter when you make a WOT pull. Exhaust gas goes up, more air, more fuel etc, so it should be something like that. If there is a small leak in a breather line or something you may be smelling vapors from the WOT pull. Hard to say without smelling it in person.
So here is the next one. For this one, all we really need is a short 10 minute datalog with a clean third gear WOT pull. I just want to see how much if any your car likes the 40* cam for vtec. Vtec will be at 4600 in this one to test. After this, the next calibration will have everything blended out and you will get to see a glimpse of the final product.
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The knock is a little weird. Since it didn't do it on the first 30* cam angle run. It could have a been a fluke, and maybe a rough road, but it is hard to say other than it's odd. But we'll see how it goes from here. The knock wouldn't be from fuel delivery, it would be more from lower octane than expected, too much timing, or mechanical issue of some sort. Fuel delivery though isn't an issue, granted a lean condition or something can, but you're not lean at all. We'll keep an eye on it, it's all part of the process. I just wanted to make sure you didn't just get gas. The smell would happen on WOT because the everything gets hotter when you make a WOT pull. Exhaust gas goes up, more air, more fuel etc, so it should be something like that. If there is a small leak in a breather line or something you may be smelling vapors from the WOT pull. Hard to say without smelling it in person.
So here is the next one. For this one, all we really need is a short 10 minute datalog with a clean third gear WOT pull. I just want to see how much if any your car likes the 40* cam for vtec. Vtec will be at 4600 in this one to test. After this, the next calibration will have everything blended out and you will get to see a glimpse of the final product.
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I'm happy that the car like the 30* cam angle. Is there a big benefit for part throttle between the 15* and 30* if the fuel demand is relatively the same? I would be guessing that the 30* cam angle would pull in a little more air in return would provide more torque and MPGs. I'm really curious how my MPGs will be after the tuning process.
But yeah I think the knock was due to a bumpy part of the road or something. Cause after reviewing the next datalog, with with the cam angle at 40* at the higher RPMs there was no knock. But I found there was knocks at 5100-5300. I'm still running the same fuel as before. I'm trying to see if I could use the same tank of gas through out but it may be cutting close that I would might to fill gas again. I just looked under the hood, and I don't see anything lose or leaking that I could see. And I changed my VTEC solenoid gasket not a even a year ago. But the your theory might be right with temperatures being hotter considering my car never went higher than 8200 rpms before and when I used to drive aggressively it would be a 2nd gear pull on on-ramps.
But here is my next datalog. Sorry my WOT pull isn't as nice as before. I didn't go to WOT until around 3800. If you need me to make another 3rd gear WOT pull, please let me know.
But yeah I think the knock was due to a bumpy part of the road or something. Cause after reviewing the next datalog, with with the cam angle at 40* at the higher RPMs there was no knock. But I found there was knocks at 5100-5300. I'm still running the same fuel as before. I'm trying to see if I could use the same tank of gas through out but it may be cutting close that I would might to fill gas again. I just looked under the hood, and I don't see anything lose or leaking that I could see. And I changed my VTEC solenoid gasket not a even a year ago. But the your theory might be right with temperatures being hotter considering my car never went higher than 8200 rpms before and when I used to drive aggressively it would be a 2nd gear pull on on-ramps.
But here is my next datalog. Sorry my WOT pull isn't as nice as before. I didn't go to WOT until around 3800. If you need me to make another 3rd gear WOT pull, please let me know.
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The dyno could probably tell us more about which angle is giving us more power on part throttle. But yeah, we can try both cam angles to see which one you like for part throttle, as the in car feedback is the most important. I have you at 20* on part throttle and ramping up as you go higher in the rpms and load. But we could run you at 25* and then ramp up from that, but we'll play with it. In this next one, I have the high cam angle map all set so it will rotate properly in vtec. It liked the 40* cam more than I thought it would for the just an intake, but that's good, and sort of makes sense to seeing at part throttle it seemed to like more cam angle.
Yeah we'll keep an eye on the knock for sure. Also, do you know or have you checked your oil level recently? I am noticing now a lot of oscillation in the actual cam angle in following the cam commanded angle. While we're commanding 20* at part throttle, your actual cam angle is floating between 15-25* which is a little odd. I've never actually dealt with it before, but I have seen guys have the issue when their oil level is low. Looking back, it's been an issue from the beginning but I didn't notice it. Double check the oil level when you can and let me know.
Overall though it's looking good. Like I mentioned, the cam angle is all set now. So see what you think and how it pulls through vtec to redline. It should pull pretty good now that it will rotate the cam in vtec and taper properly.
Also, can you let me know what the part number is of the Denso O2 sensor is you purchased? I have another guy who is interested in swapping his for maintenance reasons before we get started. I just wanted to compare the part number to the one you got so he can get the right one.
Here is the next one. Vtec will be at 4500, so see what you think. This one should feel pretty good all over now that the cam angle map is blended out.
Yeah we'll keep an eye on the knock for sure. Also, do you know or have you checked your oil level recently? I am noticing now a lot of oscillation in the actual cam angle in following the cam commanded angle. While we're commanding 20* at part throttle, your actual cam angle is floating between 15-25* which is a little odd. I've never actually dealt with it before, but I have seen guys have the issue when their oil level is low. Looking back, it's been an issue from the beginning but I didn't notice it. Double check the oil level when you can and let me know.
Overall though it's looking good. Like I mentioned, the cam angle is all set now. So see what you think and how it pulls through vtec to redline. It should pull pretty good now that it will rotate the cam in vtec and taper properly.
Also, can you let me know what the part number is of the Denso O2 sensor is you purchased? I have another guy who is interested in swapping his for maintenance reasons before we get started. I just wanted to compare the part number to the one you got so he can get the right one.
Here is the next one. Vtec will be at 4500, so see what you think. This one should feel pretty good all over now that the cam angle map is blended out.
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I just checked my oil level and it was around the middle of the 2 dots. So oil level wasn't too low. I did poured in 1/3 of a quart and it brought it up to 3/4 between of the 2 dots. So we'll see how it looks like when I do the next datalog.
The primary 02 sensor is Denso 234-9076.
Also, do you want me to a datalog 10min with a 3rd gear WOT pull?
The primary 02 sensor is Denso 234-9076.
Also, do you want me to a datalog 10min with a 3rd gear WOT pull?
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Okay sounds good.
Go back to 20-30 minutes and the third gear pull. And feel free to have more fun with it if you want. It’s plenty safe to drive a little more aggressive of you want.
Thank you for the part number.
Go back to 20-30 minutes and the third gear pull. And feel free to have more fun with it if you want. It’s plenty safe to drive a little more aggressive of you want.
Thank you for the part number.
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The 20* feels pretty good. Feels strong during practical throttle. But it would be great to experience the higher cam angles and see how the car responds to it. I noticed during this tune the transition to vtec was very smooth and it just picked up really quick especially in the mid range. I could feel that my car kept pulling really nicely all the way through redline.
I noticed that I did have a few knocks again but location were not consistent with the other datalogs. This time it's at 6500 and 6700. But I'm happy that it's not in near redline. I hope these are false knock and nothing that's detrimental to the engine's health. I would have to fill gas in the next couple days hopefully it wouldn't effect the tuning process. I try to get gas at the same location to make everything as consistent as possible.
Here's my next datalog. I would say this would be the most common condition I the car would be in due to I took the datalog after work which would be my normal driving conditions. I know you started blending the cam angles but I was wondering if the 45* cam tables would be adjusted as well?
I noticed that I did have a few knocks again but location were not consistent with the other datalogs. This time it's at 6500 and 6700. But I'm happy that it's not in near redline. I hope these are false knock and nothing that's detrimental to the engine's health. I would have to fill gas in the next couple days hopefully it wouldn't effect the tuning process. I try to get gas at the same location to make everything as consistent as possible.
Here's my next datalog. I would say this would be the most common condition I the car would be in due to I took the datalog after work which would be my normal driving conditions. I know you started blending the cam angles but I was wondering if the 45* cam tables would be adjusted as well?
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Yeah once we get this version dialed, we can play with the cam angle at 25* or 30* on the part throttle which would run you on the 30* cam. We just have to be careful, with only an intake things aren't super efficient so more angle doesn't mean more power. But we can definitely try, as mentioned, your feel in the car is all that matters to me when doing this stuff. And yeah, with the cam angles blended now, as you go through a pull it is rotating the cam to what I see as the best angle throughout which gives you that linear acceleration feel.
The knock were in a fairly normal area, at least lately. We have to treat the knock as if they are real at first, then go from there. If we keep pulling timing and it keeps knocking, then we can discuss false knock. But we have to address it as real to begin, that way we know what we're working with. Pretty sure it will stop with just ignition, since you don't have a race header hitting a crossmember or anything, the chances of false knock are slim.
This datalog looked great though, especially for a first blended one. Sometimes it takes a couple to get it smooth after blending, but yours looks great. I made a couple half percent adjustments to the WOT fueling, and a few adjustments to the part throttle fuel. Feel free to have more fun with this one if you want, it's 99% there.
As for the 45* cam angle, we can make a run on it if you want. I can almost guarantee it won't want more fuel, and it might also cause a bog on the vtec crossover due to the low cam losing power on the ramp and the 45* cam angle on the crossover. But let me know, we can try it again once we get this version dialed. The 45* cam angle is more for FBO setups where the race header and exhaust allow for more flow.
Here is the next one. Feel free to have fun with this one, drive it however you want, just be sure to get a clean third gear pull in like you have been. Also, make a fourth gear pull from 3000-7000 so I can check for knock in fourth gear. Don't run it out to redline at that gets you to pretty high speeds. I don't want things getting too unsafe on the street. So if you can find a safe place to make a fourth gear pull from 3000-7000 that would be great. But the third gear pull like you have been doing, we need that for sure.
The knock were in a fairly normal area, at least lately. We have to treat the knock as if they are real at first, then go from there. If we keep pulling timing and it keeps knocking, then we can discuss false knock. But we have to address it as real to begin, that way we know what we're working with. Pretty sure it will stop with just ignition, since you don't have a race header hitting a crossmember or anything, the chances of false knock are slim.
This datalog looked great though, especially for a first blended one. Sometimes it takes a couple to get it smooth after blending, but yours looks great. I made a couple half percent adjustments to the WOT fueling, and a few adjustments to the part throttle fuel. Feel free to have more fun with this one if you want, it's 99% there.
As for the 45* cam angle, we can make a run on it if you want. I can almost guarantee it won't want more fuel, and it might also cause a bog on the vtec crossover due to the low cam losing power on the ramp and the 45* cam angle on the crossover. But let me know, we can try it again once we get this version dialed. The 45* cam angle is more for FBO setups where the race header and exhaust allow for more flow.
Here is the next one. Feel free to have fun with this one, drive it however you want, just be sure to get a clean third gear pull in like you have been. Also, make a fourth gear pull from 3000-7000 so I can check for knock in fourth gear. Don't run it out to redline at that gets you to pretty high speeds. I don't want things getting too unsafe on the street. So if you can find a safe place to make a fourth gear pull from 3000-7000 that would be great. But the third gear pull like you have been doing, we need that for sure.
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