2012 SI Calibration Help

Calibrations for FlashPro Manager - Use all calibrations at your own risk (dyno tuning recommended)

Rmart980
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Alright!! Got a few good pulls on that one with 0 knocks! Ran very good.
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Looks really good Rick. Your fueling is nice and consistent, each file is really good which is nice.

I would say you're good to go from what I see. What I would do is make some random datalogs for fun over the next week or so, if you see any knock or anything let me know. If not, then you're good to go. The fueling is great like I said, so just focus on knock events happening and let me know if any pop up. Glad you're happy with it.

And Rick, if you want to, take the attached file for a drive when you get a chance. Let me know if it feels like it has a little more top end power above 6500 rpms. I made some cam angle changes that it might like based on what I see using virtual dyno. Let me know what you think. Any changes you feel would be above 6500 to redline, everything else is the same. Also, let me know if you want full throttle shift enabled.
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Awesome! Thanks again! What is the full throttle shift? Does that help with faster shifts, like from 1st to 2nd?
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Full throttle shift means when you shift gears during full throttle, you can leave the gas pedal to the floor as opposed to lifting off the gas. You still have to push the clutch in of course, but you can leave the gas pedal to the floor while shifting.

Faster shifts for the 1-2, are you referring to a lock out feeling during the shift? If so, that is usually the clutch master being designed with a bypass in it. You would want to go with something like the K-Tuned clutch master kit (link below) to fix that issue. I swapped mine on my old 8th gen and it was one of the best mods I made to the car.

http://k-tuned.3dcartstores.com/K-Serie ... p_624.html
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Yeah the lock out is what I hate.. That will be next on the list!. I will see how it does for a few days and let you know how it feels. I don't think I need full throttle shifs enabled. Than lock out is terrible though. Thanks Again.
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Yeah then you love it when you get the cmc kit in there. It removes that feeling you hate.

Let me know how that new file Rev14.1 feels if you try it. I think it might help the top end a bit.
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The new file feels great, I can tell it picks up more after 6500. Still no knocks. Ill do a few more datalogs aging in the next few days. Thanks again for doing this for me.
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Yeah it looks good. From what I see on the virtual dyno it does seem like it picked up a little on the top end. Not that it is a perfect comparison tool, but sometimes it can be. Run whichever one feels better to you, like I mentioned, they are essentially the same file just a small cam angle adjustment up top in 14.1.

Enjoy it and let me know if you see anything in the datalogs this week. If not, you're good to go.
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Ok, will let you know if anything comes up. Great job! Thanks again.
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Hey hope all has been well. The car has been running great! I got that CMC kit, and shifting has been smooth as butter now. I also bypass the throttle body with the coolant line in hopes of keeping the intake temps down some. I drove it after and it kind of bogged a little in 1st taking off so I did a datalog drive and it did it one more time during. I didn't know if doing that would change anything in the tune? Also can enable flatfoot shifting now I can get it in 2nd gear..lol
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Nice to hear the CMC did the trick. I remember when I got it done on my old 8th gen, it was a great feeling to get more feedback from the pedal and be able to get into second gear a lot easier during WOT pulls.

Did the bogging start to happen after getting gas by any chance? It almost seems as though you had some bad gas, the k control is almost at 100% which means it must have been experiencing some knock for a little while and it's causing the ECU to pull timing to prevent knock. Since there is no knock in this datalog, and you were knock free for most of our tuning files, something must have caused it to knock and the ECU is trying to compensate for it. The bog you're feeling is most likely the ECU pulling a bunch of timing to prevent knock. It wasn't doing that in our tuning files, so it's interesting. We'll have you keep making datalog to look over everything again, but my guess is poor quality fuel.

Here is the next file for you. How much gas do you have in the tank before you'll be filling up again? I also turned on the full throttle shift in this one for you. It's set to engage over 6000rpm and over 80% throttle, just so you know the parameters.
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I had about half tank of gas. I just filled up at QT this morning so hopefully that will help.
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OK, That felt smoother for sure. And I like that flat foot shifting. But should the limiter be moved up?
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Yeah it looks like it must have had some bad fuel, or lower than advertised octane levels. The knock control was back within normal levels and there was no knock retard throughout your driving. You were more than likely feeling the large reduction in timing to help prevent knock. Honda's strategy is to prevent knock by proactively removing timing where it thinks it will see knock. Where most systems only pull timing when it sees knock. Hence the reduction in performance you felt because that.

It looks like for some reason the WOT pressures were causing it to kick out of open loop, again a problem you never had before. So it's a little weird, but I lowered the pressures so it should rev past 6000 with no issues now.

Otherwise there was no knock, and fueling looks great. We'll see how it looks on this one.
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Ok, what we got on this one, still cutting out at which is perfect for the 1st to 2nd shift but is there a way to move it up in the higher gears?
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